Pacman to test

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  1. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I actually asked WHY FLOYD would risk his paper...not Manny b/c Floyd was the one who created the platform for the demands for Olympic tests. So I do appreciate the names and list you presented to make your case.

    A lot of people thought Rog was dirty b/c his name among others were listed specifically as those who were KOWN to dope. There are still those who test in baseball today....even with all the strict testing measures in place. It's not at all looney to ask for additonal tests if there is reasoning to believe they are dirty....as in the baseball scandal. There were actual PROOF and sources clsoe to those who were accused to generate the investigation. NOT THE CASE WITH FLOYD'S ACCUSATIONS FOR MANNY.

    And the point is Floyd hasn't EVER asked for these test in the past and never made allegations against a future opponent.... he's never had to need to b/c he was so confident in his abilities but in this challenge Floyd is acting completely out of character and that creates a lot of speculation.
     
  2. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    You talk matter of factly that drug testing is hindering negotiations. If it were, wouldnt Floyd and his dad be on ESPN spewing "Pac would agree to the tests!" by now? Why so quiet?

    You wanna keep it real, If I am Floyd and Im getting bombarded by the media and I know for a fact that this midget hasnt agreed to any drug testing, **** Ill have my own press conference ASAP!
     
  3. thaddaeus

    thaddaeus New Member Full Member

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    how did you know thats the reason he is taking a vacation????

    if drug testing was the problem then why did he not said it to the media to defend himself and save face....
     
  4. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And yet you're on here talking about the man on page 10 of a thread of which he is not even the primary subject. I would say that he does run the sport. *******s everywhere spend their days trying to discredit him, hating on him, and making excuses for his opponents and potential opponents. The truth is, Floyd doesn't care about some no talent ass clowns on a boxing forum, you care about him. You can call Floyd fans whatever names you want, but here you are posting the same **** trying to tear him down while they're trying to hold him up. Like it or not, Mayweather pwns you.
     
  5. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    HGH...is detectable in urine but the procedure hasn't been approved.

    Now tell me, who has USADA caught of using HGH with blood testing procedure?

    and..

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    http://www.rice.edu/~jenky/sports/epo.html
     
  6. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm sorry. You're wrong. Your 2004 Athens Olympics info is a bit outdated.
    Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/26/sports/26iht-26doping.14001565.html

     
  7. Bazooka

    Bazooka Pimp C Wants 2 Be Me Full Member

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  8. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    so, what are you telling me? WADA/USADA, who were Floyd's choice to oversee the testing, should change their protocol from using urine sample to test for EPO?

    again, USADA (Floyd's choice) uses only urine sample to detect the presence of synthetic EPO.
     
  9. Devildoc

    Devildoc Capo Di Tutti Capi Full Member

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    Jaguar is setting himself up big time. :lol::lol::lol:
     
  10. slantone

    slantone Ring General Full Member

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    what kind of thread title is this??!??! it s a statement- not a question or a request- as if it were fact...can the mods please clean up confusing and misleading **** like this please- i thought pac had agreed to somoething and suddenly became happy. not nice.
     
  11. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He could be. I wish Pacquiao would agree to random blood and urine tests all the way to the fight so we could find out. As it stands now, all we know about Floyd is that he's willing to take the tests, and Manny is not.

    Nice redirect. You said that it was detectable in urine. I disproved that with the article that I posted. Now you try and put it on Floyd?

    If you read the article, in 2008 these studies found that the urine test for EPO were insufficient. If you recall, Floyd asked for additional testing including blood testing which experts agree is the most effective way to test for a variety of PEDs including EPO.

    So let's go issue by issue.

    1. So, you were wrong in stating that EPO was detectable in urine. Can we agree on that?

    2. I don't know what WADA or USADA require. It is irrelevant because Team Mayweather requested blood and urine testing be performed. Can you agree on that?

    3. Mayweather was right to ask for blood testing, can you agree on that?
     
  12. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    All the articles that i've seen, blood is not being used to detect the actual presence of synthetic EPO.
     
  13. bcastro

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    This standard is discrimanatory!
     
  14. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't believe people in this day and age and all the people we seen using PED's in sports that people are against certaing kinds of drug testing. Who would ever thought it would come to this and people like charlie are finding rational reasons to not test a certain way. It's a drug test for christ sakes no matter how they do it. It should never be a reason why a boxing match is not made. Never has this happened in boxing history!!!!!
     
  15. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He will ignore this post because he has no comeback or facts to show you.