Pacman to test

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You have no idea about the protocol. She WOULD have and DID pop positive because they STORE a sample to be tested at a later date and it WAS. She was CONFIRMED as a cheat. Mosley wasn't because the NSAC does not store samples.

    Who cares what I know? Mayweather is willing to take the SAME tests. So Pac is not being singled out or unduly harmed. Manny is a cheat.

    Imagine attempting to get on a plane...

    "I will let you search my baggage and go through the metal detectors if you tell me what I have."

    "Um no. If you don't do this search you won't board the plane."

    "Well tell me what I have first? What could I have?"

    "Who knows. This is the procedure. If you want to board. Do it. If not? Take the bus."
     
  2. les

    les boxerman Full Member

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    If u really want to fight floyd,do what shane mosley did.lets clean **** up together or manny should make it clear he's walking away for good. Tell everyone i cant do random.others will ask that of him now.maybe not top rank fighters
     
  3. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    I don't think that's a good comparison bro. The "procedures" were already written on stone from the boxing commission. It's more like you about to board a plane like you say, you follow the rules, but then the guy in back of you, who has no authority over you, makes up a new set of rules for you to follow in order for you to board the plane. Say he's calling you a terrorist, the airport security, customs, etc which had been carrying out the procedures has never found nothing on you, but the guy still accuses you of having a bomb. That's how I see it.
     
  4. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    14 days isn't too big a window...there aren't any EPO's, PED's, or Roids that wouldn't still be left in your system immediately after the fight if you are using anything illegal that can be tested for. Nothing that would be beneficial or an advantage on fight night either.
     
  5. FutureChampGG

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    If you are Pacquiao and you know you are clean and have the opportunity to fight to prove you are the best of your generation, plus make a stupid amount of money in the process, why would you not agree to the most stringent of testing? If you are clean why not do any tests anyone asks of you, so what if you consider it an insult to be asked. Fully agree to the testing demands then surely you get the huge fight, big pay day, and shut up anyone who accuses you of being a cheat.

    That he hasn't done so must be seen as suspicious....
     
  6. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    ask youself.

    Known PED (anabolic steroid and EPO) are both detectable in urine.
    Pac agreed to have his urine tested all the way and in an unlimited amount to fight day.

    Would somebody that's using both would agree to such a test.

    Pac also agreed to have his blood drawn after the fight. Would somebody that just cheated with PED agree to do that?

    oh..your analogy is rubbish.
     
  7. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    if your offer have been met, you're negotiator have come to terms with the other side but you went on a vacation instead, isn't that a duck?
     
  8. FutureChampGG

    FutureChampGG Member Full Member

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    Yeah i don't think Floyd wants anything to do with pacquiao at the moment for whatever reason:
    Simply doesn't want to fight again this year.
    Wants pacquiao to have 1 or 2 more wars before getting in the ring with him.
    Thinks he's a cheat and doesn't want to fight and risk losing to him unless he can be totally sure he isn't on something.
    Or is flat out ducking cos he thinks he might lose

    I don't know which one it is. I was talking about pacquiao though and still don't get why, if he's clean, he wouldn't agree to every test under the sun to prove his innocence, have an opportunity for a career defining fight, and a massive pay day.
     
  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No if you WANT to fight Guy A and Guy A has certain provisions then you follow them. If you DON'T WANT to fight move on. The provisions here are written in stone as being negotiable. Meaning FMJ is within his rights to make the request and it is a REASONABLE request.

    For example, any premier WW fighter that WANTED to use 10oz gloves in a Vegas mega-fight could legally request them. If you WANTED to fight him you would have to wear 10oz. If you DIDN'T WANT to wear the gloves, you just would turn the fight down and move on. Don't make giant soap operas about WANTING fights when, in truth you, WON'T accept a fight term.

    Pac has no problem adding catch weights to fights when the commissions have clearly defined the weight divisions. I don't like it, but it is up to the other guy to decide. None of these guys get in the press calling Pac names for requesting catch weights saying he is "ducking" them. They man up and accept the term or walk the hell away.
     
  10. Jaguar

    Jaguar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The only things that Pac is testing are his running shoes.
     
  11. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    I want to know why Dapidran never has agreed to full random testing.....
     
  12. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  13. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Please. A person not cheating would be able to follow the protocol no sweat.

    Pac doesn't want the fight and is using this testing protocol to get out of it. At this point he is either scared of the tests or scared of being embarrassed by Mayweather. He is more than happy to give blood as long as the sample isn't stored for later testing and/or going to an advanced drug testing facility.

    Your whole line of reasoning is crap because if Pac doesn't want to do the test then just say... NO! He keeps up this elaborate soap opera because he knows what the term is and REFUSES to do it.

    Pac WON'T test. Pac DOESN'T WANT the fight. :deal
     
  14. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    The midget is doping. Why you think he is only fighting Top Rank fighters since Floyd brought it up?
     
  15. tarugojones

    tarugojones Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd scared midget.