Pacman Vs Alexis Arguello

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  1. The_President

    The_President Boxing Addict banned

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    I have my money on Arquello.

    How about you?
     
  2. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Manny by TKO 11
     
  3. slugger3000

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    I got my money on pac.
     
  4. booradley

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    Depends on weight and the length of the fight. At 130-135 over 15 rounds Pac would have no chance at all.
     
  5. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    140+ is Pac quite clearly.

    135 is interesting.

    130 and down is Arguello.
     
  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Alexis Arguello was a dynamite puncher in either hand, and for what he lacked in hand-speed he made up for with great timing and pin-point accuracy.

    Manny Pacquiao would have mobility and speed on his side, and although not terribly difficult to hit, he was hard to hurt and possessed considerable power of his own.

    I'd favor Alexis Arguello over the 12 round distance at 130lbs. Pacquiao will have some early returns, setting a fast pace, but he will become more and more cautious as Alexis starts to touch him. Arguello was a devastating puncher at 130lbs, he wasn't trained to make contact with his opponent, he punched through them. You combat speed with timing and accuracy, and Alexis possessed both and would land his patented right hand at regular junctures in my opinion, just as Marquez did, often enough to earn a late stoppage.

    Don't get me wrong, I see this being a tight affair with maybe Manny leading on the cards at the time of the stoppage. Alexis was fairly stationary and could be bamboozled by speed, but Manny wasn't elusive, he'd hit you and then stay there to be hit back. You don't beat Alexis by trading with him, you beat him by boxing him from the outside and using angles. Did we ever see Manny Pacquiao at Super Featherweight do that? I can't recall.
     
  7. The_President

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    I have Arquello besting Pac from 130 to 140+

    Arquello weighed in at 140 for his match with Pryor, and I think that version was good enough to put Pacman down.

    Arquello hit Pryor with many vicious right hands in both fights. I don't think Pacman has ever been hit like that in his whole career and he wouldn't be able to shake it off as Pryor and his jungle juice did.
    And in that fight, you can safely bet that Alexis would find and perfectly time a HARD right hand on Pac's jaw.

    Incidently, I have Pryor besting Pac also, in the same weight classes.

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  8. DobyZhee

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    pac..at any weight at anytime in his career. devastating puncher.

    gannigan had arguello down..imagine what pac would do.

    arguello RIP.
     
  9. bballchump11

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    Man Manny never wins fantasy match-ups :|
     
  10. Addie

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    That's your reasoning? Ganigan put Alexis down so therefore Pacquiao beats him? It took Aaron Pryor 14 rounds and a mysterious black bottle to stop Arguello and that was up at 140lbs when he was past his peak. I saw Marquez hurt Pacquiao at Super Featherweight with a left hook. Considering Alexis hit considerably harder than JMM, how do you feel the Filipino would weather Arguello's big shots? He's almost certainly going to have at some point, Alexis was simply too good and too accurate not to land at some point, especially on a fighter who's there to be hit like Manny was at 130lbs? Would this not factor in...because Ganigan scored a K/D?
     
  11. Steenalized

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    Need to know the weight and the length of the fight.
     
  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I see no reason to subject Manny to 15 rounds. He's never had to do it.
     
  13. The_President

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    Do as above or selectively pick what you think/believe. To be fair to Pac, lets make it 12 rounds. :good:yep
     
  14. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I don't see there being any difference in result at 130-135lbs. Manny has only campaigned at 140lbs once and that was against a fighter Alexis would have sparked as well, so that one is a little more difficult.
     
  15. The_President

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    So, do you think Alexis lost power at 140?

    It sure didn't appear so with those power shots he landed on Pryor. I think those shots landing on any lesser fighter (without Panama) would have laid them out. I mean, they looked like they almost broke Pryor's neck with his head flying back so far! :lol: