What do you guys think that padwork should emphasize, fitness improvement or skill improvment? Everytime i do pads i can complete the 3 rounds but my shoulders are on fire when im done and i can barely do it(and im not that bad out of shape i can 5-6 rounds on the bag and sparring easy.) Cause after a round and a half, im too burnt to punch the combos thier trying to teach me correctly cause im fatigued and my left hand starts dropping and I start performing worse. I know when boxing, you will undoubtedly face fatigue but shouldnt i save shoulder endurance for bagwork or punchouts and try to learn technique when doing pads?
Funny how the skill set for trainers has changed over the years, Steve. It seems obligatory now for them to do a floorshow for gym rats: the pad drill, for instance. When I trained at Stillman's gym in the 1940s and 50s, with the best fighters in the world, (I'm talkin' every ATG) no one did pad work; it was just roadwork, hitting the heavy and light bags, shadowboxing, skippin' rope and floor exercises.
pad work is just choreographed hype, all those fancy punches and combos on the pads/mitts. but you never seem utilized in the ring But it does have it's benefits I am sure, but I agree with john garfield
It's a good workout in that you are utilizing the muscles one needs for throwing punches, collectively. As well I believe when you are working on say a new type of combo you need to get comfortable with before you jump into the ring and are not quite ready to start throwing in sparring just yet. It is not a good indicator of skill, as some think though. I've seen some people who look awesome on the pads, then jump in the ring and are total ****. A lot actually.
if your workin mits with a good trainer and he is correcting your mistakes and also pushing you to your stamina limits this will benefit all aspects of your game footwork, hands up , coordination, accuracy, endurance, and most importantly good technique do pads theyll work wonders
I think its really good for technique. You get the absolute full attention of the trainer.. focusing on your punching and picking up the technical deficiencies. Having said that, you shouldn't be punished to exhaustion.. you should feel the same after 3rds on the pads as you would after 3rds of sparring i think. On another note.. people get lazy on the bags. They get lazy and stop punching.. can't do that on the pads.
Pads square people up as there right hand and hook land in the wrong place. Great for fitness but damaging to your boxing skills.
I was with Freddy Roach at Wild Card when he was doing pads with a comebacking Mike Tyson. He was workin' Mike very hard and he threw up, but Freddie insisted he continue. He did, but he had fire in his eye. On one combination, between Freddie's pads, Mike landed a flush right to his face. Freddie wobbled. Mike apologized profusely for the "accident," and after a break they continued. When the drill was over, I asked Freddie what it was like to take that shot. "Everything went black," he said. "Were you afraid you were gonna go out," I said. "I was afraid I was gonna die."
Freddie tells that story on one of his training dvds. Thanks a bunch for the added bits, his response is classic. lol I've always been a huge fan of Roach, something about the way he carries himself, I genuinely like the guy and hope that one day I can work with him. If I had one choice of who to apprentice under as a trainer, it'd be him.
You've got that right, PC. You couldn't have picked a better trainer to apprentice. Freddie's exactly as you see him -- genuine to his toes. A rare thing in the fight game or anyplace else. This is one stand-up guy. He may look like a school boy and be battling Parkinson's, but rub him the wrong way and he'll get in the face of the biggest badass in the gym.
The pads as we see them today were invented by somebody in Mexico about 40 years ago, as I recall. However, many trainers were just using gloves for similiar drills when I first started back in the late 50's. I have to agree with you, padwork is often no more than a floor show. Have you seen the HBO videos of Manny Steward holding the pads for Wladimir Klitschko? Klitschko is obviously holding back otherwise he would rip out Steward's arms! :roll:
I think that the main advantage to pad work is that if your pad dude is doing his job, you are going to have to punch while moving forward, backward and laterally.........its kinda like the baby step between bag,road and shadow work and actual sparring
Exactly not only what you pointed out, but you and your trainer can simulate the fight itself as to were a Heavybag or doubleend bag does not move does not throw anything back, so basicly your working on more than just throwing shots, your slipping blocking countering weaving, comming forward with shots etc..... mitt work if done right should feel the same way you feel when your moving around in the ring and sparring or fighting.
Its funny Im a trainer at a local community gym and it seems that all the guys and girls there pad happy. I think the number one form of training is sparring. Dont get me wrong I like the pads and always enjoyed a pad work out but the only way to make the most of what your doing on the pads bags ect is good sparring ,Not blasting each other just nice and steady and getting used to work under fire. Theres no better cure than a punch landing to get you keeping your hands up.:good
