Pavliks hand speed..

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  1. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Interesting observation. He isn't trying to hurt the heavy bag though. :D I tried to make the point before, it is the time that an opening presents its self to the time you connect a meaningful punch is what has to be measured. That is a little hard to do.
     
  2. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    More like vs fighters that comes to brawl instead of slick styles. When Pavlik face a slick style fighter (Hopkins) he got his ass whopped in a shut out. Oh wait i forgot he got 120 temperture my bad. Booradley, Hermit should be happy Calzaghe didn't want to fight Pavlik cause if he did, he would have beat Pavlik just like he did to Lacy when Lacy was suppost to be unbeateble.
     
  3. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    All good Rock!

    However, last night Pavlik's hand speed was terrible in the first round. As the fight wore on you could really see the rust coming off. Hand speed picked up, defense got sharper, et. In addition he was in there with a guy who justed planted his feet right in front of KP, so he didn't need speed. He was just loading up on almost everything he threw.
     
  4. TFFP

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    But explain to me why he'd have to bottleneck his own speed to hurt an opponent? I'm not sure about that, if anything perhaps he does it because it takes less out of him to do it the way he does. He just sort of puts his punches out there without too much effort and has a natural power.

    It shows to me he has the physical capability to punch faster but intentionally chooses not to. I mean there is no way a guy gets slower just because he's in the ring, its an intentional idea.
     
  5. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Pavlik's hand speed looked awesome at times against Rubio. I do not care a wit that Rubio is nothing special. Those double and triple left hooks were faaassst. In the first Taylor fight when both were just bombing away at each other the hand speed was merely okay. In the 2nd fight he was fast enough to beat JT to the punch and counter him regularly. That's the long way of saying I get what you're saying about it being something intentional. He does what the fight requires.
     
  6. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    If Pavlik had speed, he would have atleast won 1 round vs Hopkins.
     
  7. Hermit

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    Heavy bag doesn't hit back? I think defensively trying not to leave himself out of position. In a fight he is more deliberate. That's my best guess. He is pretty controlled in the ring. He's in there with the mindset he'll have 12 rounds of work.
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    It was more the lack of footspeed that ****ed him against Hopkins. He wasn't getting close enough. That in itself is an indication of how slow his feet are because Pavlik doesn't need to be all that close, his arms are long and he can punch very long.
     
  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Maybe thats it. He was kinda wailing away at the bag with both hands, I searched for the footage but can't locate it; or for that matter any footage of him hitting a bag to back me up. But yeah there wasn't much method, he was just blasting away at the bag, there wasn't any thought of poise or defence.

    It was just a surprise to me see that kind of handspeed when I'd never previously seen anything like it from him.
     
  10. Hermit

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    Strange how foot speed plays into a fist fight. Well, I mean when you aren't simply running for your life. :D
     
  11. Sp_Immortal

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    95% of any boxers KOs are against "simple" competition.
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    Pavlik will time Williams and knock him out.