lol what rounds did u give whitaker? dont forget the knockdown is nullified by oscars 10-8 3rd round due to illegal headbutt. i doubt u seen the fight.
what rounds did you give sweet pea. also i notice in this thread u keep defending whitaker, yet if u look at ur scorecard u scored it a DRAW. that means u didnt see either fighter winning. so there had to be something whitaker did or did not do that caused ur scorecard to reflect this, yet i hadvnt seen u defend oscar once or play both sides of the fence. You scored it a draw for a reason. u didnt have whitaker winning.
I know im coming across that way, but like i said in the original post on this thread, i really do feel that the only thing Oscar did was land some harder shots, whereas in the rounds that Pae won he was schooling Oscar at times. Im not nuthugging here, i was just very impressed. But shouldnt a guy get a warning first rather than an outright point deduction for a headbutt? If it wasnt for that i would have Pea by 1. No1 seems to wanna comment on this
your very impressed that sweet pea did not win the fight on ur card? was the de la hoya knockdown even a knockdown? it appeared whitaker missed him with a punch and hit him with a left forearm after the missed punch while oscar was already off balance. We can play these games over and over...That was not the first time whitaker headbutted in the fight.
Haha, you have a way twisting words, but i even laughed at that! I KNOW you KNOW what im saying though.
And now i believe this is bias. Oscar was off balance and then Sweet Pea i think missed a left-hook , which was actually a part of a double left hook combo, the latter hook landed and buckled Oscar's legs ever so slightly and caused a KD. Ive already stated that i thought it was rather class. And on the point of the headbutt, i was asking because i was curious, i actually didnt know about any previous 1s, but if he did he did, still though, he should have received warnings before a point deduction. SUZIE, IM NOT GETTING AT OSCAR, AND DONT HAVE A PERSONAL BEEF WITH HIM, I JIUST WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH HOW PEA LOOKED WHEN HE LOOKED GOOD, THATS IT!
I thought the 3rd round was one of oscars better rounds.....dont see how u scored it for sweet pea. ur the first person i have ever heard give the 3rd to sweet pea. even sweet scientist gave the 3rd to oscar. so did lederman/ all the "corrupt" judges and most fans out there.
He was doing good throughout the first part of it, Sweet Pea pretty much handled him toward the latter parts of the round, though that was when the deduction came. I could see that being a De La Hoya round. But still, I gave Oscar two of the 3 rounds I scored even just to tighten up the scores, as I had Whitaker winning by a bigger margin when I just watched it than I did the first time.
My father who usually puts up a good scorecard on many fights and is far more knowledgable and experienced than me when it comes to fighting and studying boxers scored it with me, he had it 116-111 oscar de la hoya. I had it 114-113 oscar. He thought sweet peas clowning making him miss without returning any counterpunches did nothing but **** off the judges and make sweet pea look like a fool for not taking advantage. he saw oscar as doing all the work making the fight landing the harder punches. He thinks of sweet pea as too much a runner. thats what the times viewed him as. I do think my dad didnt give whitakers jab and oscar misses enough credit, but at the same time he brought up good points why oscar deserved to win or should I say not lose. seems sweet pea is one of those fighters whos legacy apparently is going up by young fans falling in love with make u miss badly style
OK, so when Oscar was missing combinations, what did he do to win the judges over? He wasn't landing solid shots, he wasn't using effective aggression, so what was he doing? Defense is a criteria as well in case you were unaware, therefore Pea did something impressive by the judges criteria, Oscar did nothing. Regardless of whether or not the biased judges liked it, that is the official criteria, Pea's defense should've helped him out in that fight. Oscar's only edge was in power shots.
Suzie, you made that 'falling in luv' comment about me earlier in this thread, and now are making that comment again. Im not a 'young fan' in terms of boxing knowledge, and thats not good if you think that. Im your age and have always (meaning for a very long time) studied boxing history religiously, i know you always talk about you box, ive boxed amateur myself, nothing of note, but im just saying that im boxing mad, i always jump on any threads regarding any fighters of the past, obscure, great , whatever, and no1 tells me im embarrassing myself. Im not sure if that 'young fans falling in luv with the hit and miss style' is aimed at me, but it really looks that way, just letting you know that if thats the case, you have me badly wrong. All i did was comment on a fight i havent judged before, missed it, and never got round to it, and was very impressed with some of the things Pea did, thats it, no nuthugging.