Predicting Fights.

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  1. tofu2009

    tofu2009 Active Member Full Member

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    Trying to list all the variables (whilst considering their importance) that influence the outcome of a fight. I've put them into seperate tiers, please put forward your views also if your into calling fights.

    Tier one (directly influencing a fight)

    Weight.
    Styles.
    Conditioning.
    Skills.
    Lifestyle.

    Tier two (probably influencing a fight)

    Experience.
    Power.
    Defence.
    Chin.
    Body punching Resistance.
    Speed.
    Athletic Abilty.
    Tempo.
    Height/Reach.
    Technique.
    Ring size.
    Southpaw/Orthodox record
    Footwork/balance
    Sparring.
    Age
    Location.
    Judges.
    Activity.
    Noteable wins/losses.
    Wear and Tear.
    Round Limit.
    Heart.

    Tier 3 (Possibly influencing a fight)

    Ref.
    Trainer.
    Glove size.
     
  2. efc85

    efc85 non entity Full Member

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    I just phone paul the octopus
     
  3. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Your'e over complicating things a tad. I like to get to the heart of the matter without too much terminology.
    The way I look at is -
    A)What punches can fighter A land on B. What effect will they have and will that superceede what fighter B is throwing back at A. Then you throw in the intangibles like chin, stamina, mental toughness.

    B) Is the fight in Texas?
     
  4. steelcity

    steelcity Well-Known Member Full Member

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    is the boxer

    a) slick and black

    or

    b) not slick and not black


    if the boxer falls into category A then i put my weeks earnings on said fighter
     
  5. BUSTER

    BUSTER Well-Known Member Full Member

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    usually you dont have to look into so deaply one is usually more tsalented plain and simple usually only when one can 'bang' or one has a suspect chin can i look at a upset (which is not always the case but 99%)

    when 2 of equal talent come into play usually look at styles experience conditioning ect
     
  6. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

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    Good option... but can't do that anymore, he's been dead for a while now. :mad:
    He would probably have prevented me from losing a lot of vmoney at the Pacquiao vs Ford & Ross fight :!:
     
  7. mryeags

    mryeags Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Heads or tails the way judges read fights !!
     
  8. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I wouldn't bet on boxing due to the consistently shite decisions we see. I don't want to be annoyed by my fighter being robbed as well as me

    Just realised you meant predicting not betting my bad.
     
  9. lirva

    lirva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    One thing you didn't mention; mentality.
     
  10. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mentality/attitude towards boxing fall under lifestyle or did you mean something else
     
  11. lirva

    lirva Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah I didn't realise that fell under lifestyle. For example, Zab Judah lives a good lifestyle/keeps in shape but when push comes to shove in the ring he is found wanting i.e mayweather fight/khan/cotto fight. Mentally he is weak when the chips are against him, much like Ortiz. Contrast that with someone like Lewis/Gatti/Corrales or Khan even who have the natural instinct to keep going no matter what and never look for a way out - it's not in their DNA
     
  12. bruthead

    bruthead REAL TALK Full Member

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    I never make a prediction until I've seen what car a boxer arrives to the arena in.
     
  13. what if its 2 slick & black fighters, fighters each other?! your method is flawed
     
  14. Matt Ldn

    Matt Ldn Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No your right that doesn't really fit under lifestyle I thought you meant how dedicated they were to boxing and if they were living the life.

    What your talking about fits under heart in the 2nd tier though
    :lol::lol: An overlooked variable
     
  15. jordan1

    jordan1 Juan Lopez #1 Full Member

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    C) Is the German fighter fighting in Germany?