Though I do believe that is normal for someone who puts in a mediocre effort, I don't believe that it includes those that have a real work ethic. I myself went from 140-170 in roughly a year. Body fat did not change. Since then I've been able to gain 12-15 lbs per year, which includes layoffs due to surgeries. Assuming the OP has at least a little going for him genetically, I think that 30-40lbs in 3 years is easily feasible.
I agree with this. Good genetics, training HARD and correctly and good nutrition would probably amount to somewhere between 30-40lbs of muscle in 3 years.
yeah i agree with 30-40 lbs in 3 or 4 years of hardcore weight training. can be done. That would be fully commited to weight training and training 6 days a week.
im sorry but you might have to produce some before and after pictures for me to beleive you. I just dont beleive you put on 13kg of muscle in 1 year and average 6 kg of muscle a year after that. Sorry man im going to have to call you fos from now on. Full of **** hahah
It sounds like it's not a realistic goal for me. Maybe I should aim for 10kg max. I guess it'd be easy if it were just fat I wanted to add!
Gladly, I'm in the middle of a 24 hour shift right now, but when I get home I'll see what I can find for you. I know I only have one pic of me at 140, and I look an small emaciated sasquatch. Not sure what I have around 170 but I'll find something.
You're quitting before you start? You have got to be kidding me. You've been told it can be done, so why not put your nose to the grindstone and man the **** up? Watch every meal you eat, don't miss a scheduled workout, and find out what you're ass is really capable of. Before you begin any of this though, you need to the lose the defeatist attitude you have that's clearly holding you back. As far as the people saying it's not possible, I'm very interested in hearing your weightlifting experiences.
I posted my response without realising there was another page of comments to which you refer - a case of trigger finger, if you will. Will let you know how it goes.
I done weight training solidly for a bit over 2 years. I trained hard and lifted heavy and pushed myself hard. I got pretty big for my frame. I would say i have a ectomorph body type. I have good work ethic and pushed my self. When i get into something i go all out at it so believe me when i trained hard. I put on about 4kg in the first few months, that was only because my appetite increased because i started to lift weights, it wasn't 4kg of solid muscle. Before i started weights i was too skinny. At the start when you start lifting weights you increase your lifts every couple weeks as you get stronger and put on muscle fairly quick. then as i got stronger I was benching about 90kg weighing about 70kg at the time. That was my limit, my lifts stopped increasing as often so how am i meant to put on muscle as quick once you reach a point where you cant really lift any heavier. That is when you start doing super sets and change your routine but once you reach that point your muscle growth slows down. I got fairly big for my standards but it didn't transfer into kg. I was looking larger but i wasn't weighing much heavier. Even 3 kg of solid muscle is a lot of muscle and you would look significantly bigger.
Why would you be trying to lift as heavy as you can if your goal was just to put on muscle mass? That's strength training, not muscle building training.
from him saying he was lifting heavy and that his routine plateaued how did you conclude he was doing lifts for strength and not mass? is it impossible to plateau doing 3*8-12 sets or something?
we mixed the training up, lifted heavy, done super sets, pyramid training. endurance. Strength training is heavy weights low reps. Bulking up is heavy weight lots of sets and reps. I use to lift 4 or 5 sets per exercise doing between 6-10 reps at my max weight. If i only got 6 reps i would do another set to get the reps out. i was also trying to get as stong as i could, but its impossible to say i lifted weights only for strength from 1 post. You need to lift heavy weights to put on muscle mass. You wont bulk up pressing 5kg dumbells.
If you're lifting at your max you can't do 8-12 reps. From what he said it sounded like he was trying to lift as heavy as possible, that's not the way to build muscle quickly and he said he was training purely for mass. If you're lifting as heavy as you can you'll be doing 1-6 reps and that's strength training, your muscles aren't going to hypertrophy as much as if you're lifting lighter and doing 10-12 reps with shorter rest periods. If you're an athlete you should be strength training anyway, being as strong as possible and as light as possible is what is going to make you more powerful.
Also when you're doing your muscle gaining routine make sure you do some compound exercises at the same time with heavy loads, squats, deadlifts etc. It gives you more of a testosterone boost. Eat plenty of carbs aswell so you have your energy and spare your protein for what it's meant to do.