Quitting in fights...

Unless a guy deliberately throws a fight, this whole "he quit" thing is just macho male nonsense. Take Kell Brooks case. The way the Eubanks speak, they'd rather he end up blind than quitting. That's just stupid, no matter what you think about the "warrior code". Brook will be a long time retired and rather he enjoys his later years with his eyesight in tact than be partially sighted or worse to please someone who is and always has been an unsavoury character.

 

Your few quid for a ticket or Ppv fee does NOT entitle you to force a boxer to get seriously hurt. End of story.

 

I recently saw Ricky Burns quitting against Ondongo at the sound of the first bell when it was clear that he decided in advance of the fight that he would lose the fight and skip the night away for 36 mins.

The most gutless world title defence I have ever seen.

 

It was not close in the slightest. Throwing punches that mostly miss or hit arms and gloves don't make fights close. Ohara gets credit for throwing a lot of punches and making it entertaining but after watching the fight again the only round that that you could maybe give OD is the first. To be fair he did get some shots though on Taylor at times and he seemed to buzz him slightly at the end of the 6th with a beauty. Taylors face was marked up a bit and his nose was bleeding so OD did have some success in amongst missing lots and taking a beating

 

The bottom line is this. Only the fighter at that split second in time knows that he's giving up. He's either been sulking for a few rounds and thinking about retirement or hoping he's pulled out or wondering "what the f@@k am i doing in here?" or in mclellans case he either thought hang on a minute something ain't right here and consciously quit or indeed couldn't mentally or physically carry on. In brooks case he either had demons or wanted a way out. In every scenario there remains two schools of thought ~f@@k it and carry on or just f@@k it. We applaud those who see it through no matter what the consequences because it's the fantasy scenario if you pull it off. If it ends in tragedy then the fighter pays the price not us. Either way it is the fighter that must live with his actions and only he will know if he regrets them or not. Ultimately you are that type of person or not

 

Rightly or wrongly, it's something like this ....

Boxing is a bloodsport and people want to see violence.
People want to see a degree of pain and damage sometimes too. Just a bit.

If a fighter quits well before any serious violence has ensued and before any noticeable pain or damage has been inflicted, the spectators might feel cheated.

 

Your spot on mate. Just rewatched the fight need to stay off the drink when i m watching boxing i think. Think o hara had to exert himself too much too stay competetive.

Taylor was winning the fight...with o hara being the aggresor mostly but as you said he was missing a lot. Hes actually really bad for accuracy. Sometimes misses the target by miles. Taylor looked a lot better than i remembered the first time around. O hara was still in the fight was throwing big shots but he was on a hiding to nothing in the latter rounds. Put too much into it to stay competetive.

Not really a quit for me...that was a pretty heavy knockdown prior to it. Not too sure his faculties we,re all there seemed to react badly to the follow up.

 

You can't compare this with brook . OD took a good shot and turned his back as he had enough and didn't like it .

Brook knew he might go blind and fought his heart out until the injury

There's levels of quit and the OD quit was a shitty one

 

Ending a fight because you feel your health or life is threatened is not a quit job; its called looking out for those who depend and care for you and realising that risking losing your faculties for the sake of ego/pride is insanity. It is literally the most stupid, reckless and selfish thing you can do.

I initially was certain (and still think) that OD quit in the purest sense of the word; he was getting beat like never before and the step up in opp was too large and he just simply had enough. But the guy came out later saying he couldn't breathe? If that's true good for him he stopped the fight, I just think there were much more manly ways of stopping the fight than turning your back away from the opponent.

 

If I was getting a beat down I can't imagine ever my turning my back. Excuse the macho crap for a minute but why wouldn't you clinch, bend at the waist, fall over, take a knee .

Turning around is like suicide . You get pumped with no defence at all

 

He said his nostrils were blocked...

 

I hate training with a cold too

 

I don't think there should be any derision of fighters who have given it their all but there is no hope. Brook was getting beaten down badly and was physically handicapped at the point of the stoppage. Who really gives much credence to what comes out of Eubanks's mouth? When has he ever been in that situation?

There are cases where fighters really haven't given everything. Walters was getting comprehensively outboxed by Lomachenko but he wasn't badly hurt or exhausted, and in my view should have continued at least a couple more rounds.

 

Anyone with a risk of serious career ending injuries has every right to stop and fight another day.

 

Davis was put down hard. When the fight commenced he was hit again and reacted to it. Turning his back was probably a reaction more than something he had time to think about. Sometimes punches have that affect on people. Its wrong to blame him for it. He gave it what he had but looked to me like he had to exert himself too much to try and stay competetive with taylor. In the end he didnt have much left to keep him off.

Price is one of the worst for it...again tho he just ends up exhausted and has nothing left to fight with. Its a fight these guys arent super human. If you fight for long enough or are hit enough you will break down eventually.