Rating Joe Gans

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  1. JAB5239

    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Gans is a fighter I've always ranked in the top 3 lightweights all time in spite of not knowing much about his competition. My reasoning was that no way does a black man at that time build such an incredible record and the testimonials of his incredible skills. I can take ranking Gans, Leonard and Duran in any order (I personally rank Leonard first based on his incredible lightweight resume) but the more I learn about Gans the more impressed I am with his competition and dominance. In your opinion should Gans rate over Leonard? Was he more dominant than Duran? In what order do you rank the 3 of them and why?
     
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    janitor VIP Member

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    I think that Leonard was more dominant, but that Gans fought more great fighters.

    So take your pick.
     
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    JAB5239 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was always under the impression Leonard fought the better lightweight resume, but because of Gans color (this was an assumption on my part) that he would have had to have been more dominant to amass such a record during that period. I've been reading everything about him I can find for the last several months and my opinion is starting to change.
     
  4. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    I wouldnt say I'm a Gans expert by any means but I've always had him behind Leonard and Duran. Might have to do a little reading on Gans.
     
  5. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    For me the top three lightweights is locked on at Leonard , Pea and Duran.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    I guess that Gans lightweight resume becomes more and more impresive the more you learn about the era.

    Griffo, Dobbs, McFadden, Erne, Holly, Blackburn, Britt, Nelson were great fighters in their own right.
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I have it

    Duran
    Gans
    Leonard
    Pea
     
  8. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hm, I´d put Williams and Ortiz over Pea personally. Canzoneri and Ambers should be up there as well.
     
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    Don't think Leonard ever had to go in the tank.:wink:
    Make him no 2 , behind Leonard.
     
  10. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    To be fair, Leonard might have had to make some hard decisions wearing Gans's face in Gans's era.
     
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    mcvey VIP Member

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    Oh I quite agree, nothing disparaging in my comment, I think Gans retained his dignity in the face of some god awful tribulations.
    nb .He is credited with the saying ," bringing home the bacon".
     
  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Gans looks awesome on film.