"Robinson-Pender 2" 1960...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by MRBILL, Apr 2, 2009.

  1. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    110
    Folks,

    Back in 1960, Ray Robinson was 39 yrs old and an ex-champion at 147 & 160 pounds....:bbb

    I just recorded and watched his '60 rematch loss to Paulie Pender in Boston, Mass...:yep

    After watching this fight 2 X, it's too close to call...... Did Pender get the nod based on youth and freshness??:huh

    I know and could tell that Ray Robinson had slipped a step or two by 1960, however, he still was in great shape and fighting on the world class level.... Late in the fight, Robinson was still up on his toes'....

    Maybe I'm wrong, but I think the judges and promoters were giving Ray a message by giving the decision to Paul Pender.?.? In my book, Pender was bland; while Robinson was fun.......:happy

    MR.BILL:hi:
     
  2. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2005
    Messages:
    12,707
    Likes Received:
    3,542
    were all rounds there?
     
  3. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    110
    12 of 15 were.......
     
  4. ray fredrickson

    ray fredrickson Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2009
    Messages:
    470
    Likes Received:
    0
    Agree Mr. Bill,I had 8-4 Robbie!! Robbie hit harder almost had Paul out in 1!!!
     
  5. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2005
    Messages:
    12,707
    Likes Received:
    3,542
    I do have fight 1 complete, and felt Pender won fight 1 pretty easy. Well sort of.

    Highlights of fight 2, so I cant relly score that from what I saw lol.
     
  6. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2008
    Messages:
    11,935
    Likes Received:
    92
    Robinson won both fights IMO.
     
  7. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    110
    I'd like to catch Ray's fight with Joey Archer from 1965.... I have never seen this fight film before......

    MR.BILL
     
  8. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    110
    I just taped "LaMotta-Murphy 2" from '52 off ESPN Classics.......... LaMotta gets his revenge.....

    MR.BILL
     
  9. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    110
    I just taped "LaMotta-Murphy 2" from '52 off ESPN Classics.......... LaMotta gets his revenge.....

    MR.BILL:good
     
  10. Midnight Ramble

    Midnight Ramble Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2009
    Messages:
    237
    Likes Received:
    0
  11. klompton

    klompton Boxing Addict banned

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2005
    Messages:
    5,667
    Likes Received:
    39
    I thought Robinson won both Pender fights as well. I have extended highlites of his bout with Archer and he looks pretty bad in that fight. I personally hate Pender though so I admit I may be biased. Pender was just garbage in my opinion.
     
  12. MRBILL

    MRBILL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2008
    Messages:
    21,116
    Likes Received:
    110
    Robinson was still capable in 1960........... Pender was nobody special...............

    Robinson did show his age against Fullmer in the 4th fight in 1961...........

    MR.BILL
     
  13. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    38,034
    Likes Received:
    90
    ESPN must show alot of classics in the states here in UK we get

    Ali vs everybody

    and Eubank vs Benn

    over and over again with an occasioanl different fight like Louis Charles and there recycled maybe every 4 months
     
  14. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2009
    Messages:
    14,241
    Likes Received:
    152
  15. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 10, 2008
    Messages:
    38,034
    Likes Received:
    90
    ill have a watch of the 3rd fullmer fight at the weekend and tell ya