Ruben Olivares

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  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ..............Yes fans, it's that time again; I name a fighter and you astute gents post your random thoughts about him. Anything at all.......best performances, placement in history, etc. Whatever ya got.

    Olivares to me is a very interesting figure. He has always been touted as a crushing puncher with the stereotypical Mexican left hook, taught to all Mexican schoolchildren from the age of six onward. When I watch him, I see a remarkably canny boxer with better than average, though somewhat overrated power. He could still swat, not trying to say he was featherfisted, but he was more of a complete boxer-puncher than a true puncher in my eyes.
     
  2. Sweet Pea

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    He had a very good body attack, threw bolo style punches to the body often, uppercuts and the like. Threw a lot of hooking punches, though he threw them from a very straight, textbook stance. Very good footwork as well. I think he'd have beaten any Bantamweight aside from maybe Jofre at his best, and that would be a fantastic fight.
     
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    ..............Good fight, and I like Jofre in that one as well. Just as potent an attack, and more durable.
     
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    have you seen his earlier bantamweight fights in the 60's. my me, he was knockign evrybody out early. and they were some fantastic fighters that he destroyed like alan rudkin and lionel rose

    here is a clip of him against lionel rose:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m45R5B4N_1Y
     
  5. Bill1234

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    Fun guy to be around...likes his whisky...
     
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    ..............He liked it back in the day too, from what I understand. :lol:
     
  7. bxrfan

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    Very cool guy, I got his autograph last year at the IBHOF. I told him I enjoyed all his fights, although he probably didn't understand what I was saying :lol:
     
  8. Thinman

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    I don't know if this is true or not but I remember in those days ('70s) people talking about Olivares and Napoles being good friends (Compadres).

    I remember watching some TV programs at that time where they used to make fun of Olivares. The talk at that time was that Olivares was, if not always, at least most of the time drunk, and also his compadre Mantequilla Napoles.

    It was funny as hell the way the whole thing was presented. The actor playing the roll of Olivares was wearing boxing stuff and pretty much ready to go and fight.

    The idea was to show a boxer on his way to the arena, but for some reasons he had to stop at a Cantina where his compadre Mantequilla Napoles was waiting, and not only that but Mantequilla was also a regular customer and therefore the both of them were going to have a few drinks and talk ****.

    It was really funny..... I remember very well (in the program) when Olivares used to call Napoles "MANTECAS", which is basically another way to say MANTEQUILLA, which means BUTTER.
     
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    Olivares on his best day must be one of the top h2h bantams ever, was less consistent than the 2 guys i have over him greatness-wise there though- Zarate and Jofre (who i agree as number 1 h2h) respectively.

    I think Sweet Pea has more or less said most of what his style was all about, plenty of hooks, but that makes him sound like a guy like Dempsey or some wildman, it wasnt like that, the punches were very good technically, as we know- especially the left. When he wanted to make his opponent fight he could cut off the ring good with his feet and then just plant himsellf there and trade with them aforementioned hooks, to body and head, and at bantam he would usually pound out the better work