Sanchez and Monzon?

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  1. enquirer

    enquirer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes,that is what i think some folks greatly overlook when looking at fighters like monzon and calzaghe,ring generalship. I mean these guys might not be as dynamic or as technically aesthetic as the jones' or hopkins' of this world,but they seem to have an unorthodox,innate perception of range,balance and how to be 'on top' of the other fighter.
    Guys like prime JCC and duran do this as well,but it looks more dramatic and pronounced with these guys at times because they generally use more power and 'forward agression',while the aformetioned two use a persistant jab or a swarming form of punching on the back or front foot as the occasion merits. This indeed,is the highest form of being a complete boxer.
    I think sweet pea and robinson also fall into this category,and maybe leonard. (chavez i dont think is complete,because he doesnt fight of the back foot,duran is complete as he can counter punch off the back foot,And he has some degrees over monzon and calazaghe in that he can be a ring general even when he is physically outspeed,outgunned and outsized,thus the perfect ring general.hence his longevity and sucess.)
     
  2. teeto

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    Nice post, but one thing, from a technical standpoint, Jones is not in the same stratosphere as Hopkins, even if he was a better fighter for effectiveness. Anyway i'm off now to get ready for the game, thanks for the replies.
     
  3. enquirer

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    Oh i agree,i meant jones as 'dynamic',not technically aesthetic,my dodgy grammer...
     
  4. teeto

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    Ha no problem enquirer.
     
  5. GPater11093

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    They have pressure as they are constanlty controlling the pace and the flow of the fight. Keeping their opponents 'on their toes' so to speak trying to break their controll but also the physcological effect of controllng their man.

    I see some similarities like you say but I always think Sanchez was much more fluid and dynamic in the way he moved and found angles.
     
  6. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Just got to say what a great fighter I think Sanchez was, watching him you can see his brilliance.
    I saw a couple of posts recently about Humberto Soto and David Diaz talking about how good Soto looked. I was unimpressed. I've been watching Sanchez- Cowdell and Ruben Castillo like I said and I also watched the Rose-Castillo fight. That Soto Diaz fight paled in comparison as to the skills showed by the aforementioned fighters. The commentators were talking about him being a three weight champion. Armstrong, Ross and co would be turning in their graves.
     
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    top post pater
     
  8. PowerPuncher

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    Sanchez and George Foreman, I know on first glance their boxing styles may seem far apart but look at it more closely. They both throw punches in the ring and try to hurt their opponent, they both try to win fights, both wear boxing gloves, they both fight in rings, **** when you look at it like that you've goto admit the styles are pretty similar
     
  9. teeto

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    Yeah i mentioned the difference in fluidity etc, the similarities are strictly stylistic rather than anything that is derived from their attributes.
     
  10. teeto

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    Eat my shorts powerpuncher, **** post.
     
  11. teeto

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    Yeah Soto was quality for his angles to find combos, especially early, but faded down the stretch especially for workrate, which wasn't anything great to start with.
     
  12. teeto

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    Just watching some more Sanchez, there are definite stylistic differences, Sanchez had more of a tendency to 'hunt' his man, but the similarities i mentioned seem ever present to me. If i'm wrong though i'm wrong, i've went out on one here a bit. I have testicular fortitude.
     
  13. AlFrancis

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    Cojones:lol:
     
  14. teeto

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    Melons mate. My youtube keeps ****ing up, i'm trying to finish off the fight now, i would have done it earlier but had to see the game man.
     
  15. red cobra

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    Both Monzon, and Sanchez, irrespective of their styles or any similarities between them, have something in common...the mystique...unique (I believe) amongst all Latin greats of history in that they never had their titles taken from them..Monzon of course after 14 successful defenses retiring at the top, and Sanchez, because of his untimely passing, still held the featherweight crown.