Selby v Choi

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by colinthfc, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. skel1983

    skel1983 Guest

    JUst watched it again just re fresh my memory, it was pretty one sided to me I had it 3-1 going to be 4-1 until the finish, Selby looked to be controlling and dictating everything in there from what I was watching.
     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2004
    Messages:
    37,070
    Likes Received:
    29
    The Selby fight was competative. 3-1 either way or 2-2 is fair. Then Simpson got caught with the shot. Judges don't score Simpson well because they struggle to see the blend of defence/offence that Simpson uses. Yes, I am criticising our judges technical perceptivness and I don't care if they are ex-fighters, referees etc
     
  3. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2007
    Messages:
    11,823
    Likes Received:
    1
    2-2 wasnt unreasonable and John is a well known slow starter. I think the nature of the stoppage has given the impression that Selby was more in control than he actually was.

    When I said take him late, I didnt necessarily mean take him out late, just that Selby has only been past 6 once, and never past 8. The plan would have been to outlast him given Simmo's usually superb conditioning.

    That said, I am sometimes overly pessimistic watching Welsh fighters so if you tell me I am talking bollocks I might be inclined to believe you :lol:
     
  4. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    3
    I never felt like Selby was anything but in control while watching, personally. I don't think Simpson did anything really effective, he wasn't landing anything of note whereas you could see Selby was implementing what he wanted to do for the most part by keeping things long.
     
  5. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2004
    Messages:
    37,070
    Likes Received:
    29
    The fight was still give and take. It was heating up.

    Fights are chess matches and the majority of the time one move doesn't signal the end so abruptly but fighters need to act like each punch could be the curtain call.
     
  6. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    3
    Problem I saw for John disregarding the stoppage was he wasn't getting anything going to slow down Selby who held most of the physical + range advantages. He needed to work Selby's body early, rough him up, impose himself. But he couldn't, at best he was landing a few cuffing blows per round. There was no real heat on Selby, the Welshman looked comfortable. Simpson looked to have lost a step or two really.
     
  7. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2004
    Messages:
    37,070
    Likes Received:
    29
    I agree that his usual work to the body and rough house on the inside had not taken any notable toll yet but Selby hasn't experienced the championship rounds while having a tough time. Until the stoppage, it was still a points based fight for me, no real damage inflicted by either.
     
  8. BoxingAnalyst

    BoxingAnalyst Obsessed with Boxing banned

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2011
    Messages:
    19,099
    Likes Received:
    0
    :rofl
     
  9. Z Man

    Z Man Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Sep 6, 2010
    Messages:
    406
    Likes Received:
    0
    Lads lets not kid ourselves on here, no way was the fight a shutout for Selby, there was absolutely nothing in the fight really until the stoppage came and even when it did i was surprised.

    I was definitely expecting this one to go 12 rounds and see how Selby could have dealt with that but fair play to him caught John with a good punch to the ribs.
     
  10. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2010
    Messages:
    29,937
    Likes Received:
    1
    I can't like Selby because of his mustache. :lol:

    Good fight though. Selby would probably box throughout it.
     
  11. Bellewlovechild

    Bellewlovechild Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 30, 2011
    Messages:
    936
    Likes Received:
    0
    The gameplan worked a treat, John drifted from 6/5 out to 3/1 within a minute the money was down
     
  12. SkillspayBills

    SkillspayBills Mandanda Running E-Pen Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2011
    Messages:
    21,647
    Likes Received:
    4
    The rounds were competitive but Simpson never affected Selby throughout the rounds he came forward but the damage was being done by Selby mentally with good work and controlling the fight.

    John struggled massively with Selby's range.
     
  13. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2007
    Messages:
    45,002
    Likes Received:
    3
    :rofl
     
  14. I didn't watch it live, but on replay it's clear that Selby is the man in control.

    It might be it for Simpson actually, yet another close decision loss in the Smith return might have accounted for him as a top line fighter.
     
  15. Thomas!!

    Thomas!! Guest

    IMO I think Choi would KTFO Selby late in the fight. No way he stops Choi. Under the word 'Granite' in the dictionary is written Choi's name.