Walcott Quarry (I don't think the thread mentioned ATG's) I'll tell you a guy you can look up if anyone's interested. Ray "Windmill" White from the Pacific NW, a MW-LHW white boy who's record is surely 'spotty' but I saw him several times on TV in the 70's and a have a few videos I've swapped with guys over the years. Never a serious contender but...wow, I can't imagine how he gave the fans their money's worth who came to his fights! The 'Windmill' nickname came from his backward punching, behind his back, into a fighter's face while in a clinch. Plus, he did the old "oh gosh, I'm hurt wobbly knees" thing before Ali only to come back and smash with a counter. Good thread.