Soviet Union Boxers

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  1. HeavyweightCP

    HeavyweightCP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I saw were a guy said if the soviet Boxers could have turned pro the 70s and 80s would not be the same.

    saying sugar ray and other greats would not have made it.

    i think is stupid what do you guys think?
     
  2. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    I can't remember anybody saying that about SRL or other greats , anyway why do you care what morons say?
     
  3. Midwest_Chopper

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    Consider that the iron curtain has been down for 20 years and still the vast majority of champions are Americans and latins


    Outside the Klitchkos, name a eastern european fighter who isnt a massive disappointment. Now consider that the USA leads the world with nearly 20 champions and Mexico has 16.

    Then ask yourself if the Soviets wouldnt have gotten pummeled when boxing was still a top sport in America. The eastern euro myth has been theoughly debunked.
     
  4. sadlittleboy

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    Had the Soviets been "allowed" to turn pro we would have seen a different layout of the world scene...HOWVER the "Fab 4" would still, likely, have been the big names of the decade...in fact put them in ANY decade and they'd have been 4 of the VERY best.
     
  5. sadlittleboy

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    USA has 20 champions?...REALLY?....
     
  6. FelixTrinidad

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    They started in 1990 on wards.

    They did jack **** all during the 90's HW Era. The only two legit Eastern European HW ATG'S

    are Vitali and Wladimir. They had two decades to produce a third, they didn't.
     
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    Are BEASTS. . . Over the next 25 years, the world will see their abilities when they are unleashed in the professional boxing world in full force. . .
     
  8. geppy

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    A lot of the European amatuer fighters never go pro for whatever reason.

    The Val Barker Award ( The best fighter in the Olympics.)

    2000 Sydney: Oleg Saitov, Russia
    2004 Athens: Bakhtiyar Artayev, Kazakhstan
    2008 Beijing: Vasyl Lomachenko, Ukraine

    None of them have went pro.

    The last American boxer to win the Val Barker trophy is Roy Jones JR, in 1988.
     
  9. ripcity

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    Plus add all the boxers from the rest of the eastern bloc. Plus add in the Cubans
    The Talent pool would have been deeper.
    It would only take a small number being super stars to possibaly change the face of the sport.
     
  10. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    the olympic champions were always the hightest talents. so i don't think that would have changed. some cubans and soviets would had probably become champs. especially the one russian guy in the 70s and stevenson and savon.
     
  11. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    yeah...out of those 20 "champions" how many of them are paper belt holders?
    Wait for Vitali to retire and you'll see another american "champion" emerge at HW( namely arreola).
    Most of them are worthless hype jobs, in fact you can count on your left arm fingers the genuine american talented boxers.


    Regarding the TS question, no i don't think the likes of leonard would had been dethroned, but certainly boxing as a whole would had been enriched with more talent from the eastern bloc or cuba.

    East europeans are generally big dudes, so there are better chances that a big talent would emerge in divisions north of SMW, and not so much at the lower divisions
     
  12. martinez

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    Don't forget the population. USA have about 300 million or more with healthy economical side. There are Gyms everywhere and to be chosen for World Championship or Olympics you have to go through heavy competition.

    Now the same thing was with Soviets. Imagine all those small countries (not really that small) like Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, etc.. had to find out the best boxers to send them to represent Soviet Union. The competition were unbelievable hard.
     
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    Lomachenko is going pro after London. He is our generations Sugar Ray Robinson.
     
  14. FelixTrinidad

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    Most of you Klittards who think Eastern European would have done stuff prior to the K2,don't know **** about the 90's.


    After the Curtain came down, the 90's were FILLED with Eastern European 'prospects' and 'super talents'.

    Only Golota even made it to Title Shot level. Go look at the 90's prospects and Olympics. Eastern Europeans were in deep contention, they did jack ****ing ****.

    The Eastern European Dominance at HW only started after the 90's Era retired.

    But the Eastern European HWs were already fighting at PRO Level during the beginning of the 90's. That generation just couldn't cut it.
     
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