STEP ASIDE

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  1. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Team Joshua are in talks to step aside from Usyk fight in return for money and a furthur opportunity at the belts. Whats peoples thoughts, should he step aside and do you think he will or not ?
     
  2. Vegan Beast

    Vegan Beast Grandpappy Ortiz Full Member

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    He should only do it if he is contractually entitled to fight the winner of Fury vs Usyk. Joshua already has enough money.
     
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    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He isn't beating either fighter for me.

    If Usyk beats Fury then Usyks value is going to increase massively and make the rematch even bigger

    Or

    If Tyson wins this is always going to be the biggest fight in the world and Furys stock will have gone again for beating Usyk.

    Either way he earns more by stepping aside.

    No brainer to me
     
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  4. BaronSamedi

    BaronSamedi Active Member Full Member

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    So what was all that warrior talk in his latest interview? wants to be remembered for always taking on every challenge and the hardest ones, never backing away from anything and his legacy is more important than money. He's now going to back track and duck out of his hardest test to get some money? Literally the complete opposite of what he just said

    Same with hearn, giving it, no other option than a rematch, to step aside is crazy it's not what we do, AJ will chin him if he even brings up step aside to him etc

    Now they are actually going to step aside after all that talk

    Pair of sausages
     
  5. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can you direct me to the quote where AJ says he will step aside.

    Unless they are paying him an insane amount he isn't stepping aside.

    £5 million for example is pocket change.

    Not forgetting the WBC mandatory situation. There is no way Whyte is going to be made to see Fury v Usyuk and then the winner fights AJ.

    That would be ridiculous and make the WBC mandatory position nothing short of a joke.
     
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  6. hobby rider

    hobby rider Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No and no
     
  7. EJC83

    EJC83 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think we can all agree that the WBC mandatory position is a joke.
     
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  8. unfriendlyorchid

    unfriendlyorchid Probably moaning about Sky Sports Full Member

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    My immediate reaction is: no, he should not step aside.

    However, thinking a bit more deeply, I can see circumstances where this changes.

    One example would be if Saudi make a concrete contractual offer binding all three boxers.

    Example of how I, an internet forum member with no knowledge of boxing contracts would draft this:

    On x date, Usyk v Fury will fight for the unified title in x arena for $x purse.

    On the same date, Joshua will face a top 15 opponent as the main undercard attraction for a fee of $x million (this is the "step aside money", essentially paying Joshua 10x the going rate for beating up Chisora / Lovejoy / Helenius etc)

    Within 9 months of this date, the winner of Usyk v Fury will face Joshua, with a purse split of x%/x%.
    I can see how this would become very attractive to all parties, assuming all the sanctioning bodies agree not to start stripping titles before the Joshua fight. Saudi get the events they want, Fury and Usyk get the shot at undisputed, and Joshua has the contractual lock.
     
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  9. Murderers' Row

    Murderers' Row Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes he should step aside because it makes sense, he ain't beating Usyk. Because if he loses again, which I think he will, the Fury fight is dead in the water.

    Will he? I think so yes but if he doesn't then my respect for him goes up.
     
  10. Koli55

    Koli55 Active Member Full Member

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    Fury vs Usyk isn't big enough of a fight for them to pay an obscene amount to Joshua for step-aside. Saudi money can change it, though. But even with that I wouldn't recommend anyone to make a deal with Fury for a future fight. Who knows, he might get fat and depressed again.
     
  11. CutThroatFade

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    If Joshua has genuine belief that he can beat either Usyk or Fury, the only logical move is to step aside provided that he is contractually due a fight against the winner.

    It would be represent an opportunity to realise his goal of becoming a undisputed fully unified champion. If Fury was to win he would have the opportunity to fight in the biggest fight in British boxing history.

    If he cares about the fans and the sport he should step aside so that we can see the historic undisputed unification fight.
     
  12. Boxing Gloves

    Boxing Gloves Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Doubt they will meet AJ's number, surprised they are entertaining it based on their attitudes towards offering Wilder step aside money.
     
  13. nurological

    nurological Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Whyte isn't mandatory though.
     
  14. djfonti

    djfonti Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think it will happen. What does he really gain from stepping aside other than a few bob?

    He could get that and more from losing to Usyk and he'd still be in the same position. Attaining a contract that says you get a shot at the winner doesn't mean much in reality. What about all the mandatories? What about the inevitable rematch, is he going to wait until 2023? What if they win one apiece, will there be a trilogy? What if either or the pair of them retire afterwards? He will have to have good quality interim bouts too, what happens if he loses one of those? This is even before you consider the damage to his credibility.

    This is just paper talk in my opinion. He is in semi final for a shot at undisputed. That's how he has to see it. Why would you give that up?
     
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  15. kevinreid001

    kevinreid001 Punchdrunk101 Full Member

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    if his only concern is the money then step aside take the 5 to 10 Million if he is contractually obliged to take on winner of fury vs usyk

    fight a top 20 guy ko him get a very good purse in the process to add to the 5 to 10 Million, use the matchroom media hype he's hungry he's got eye tiger back pish and then he's in possibly biggest heavyweight fight of all Time. Think be daft not to.