Is it just me or is it incredibly obvious that lots of boxers were on steroids in the early 90s before they started to test properly and cath people (Holyfield, Jones jr, Toney etc). I was watching Eubank vs Holmes earlier and those two physiques were not natural. Not for a boxer anyway. When you see a boxer with a bodybuilder's physique you know they're on something. Just like Holyfield, Eubank and Holmes had huge pecs, shoulders, upper back and very very cut. Not natty. Nowadays doping has advanced a lot and is a lot subtler, eg blood doping etc because boxers know they can't get away with something so obvious as anabolic steroids. So, TBH I think a lot of 90s boxers were on steroids and were never caught; they probably stopped when Holyfield etc were caught.
You maybe accused of trolling, but I do agree with you. Vitali, Jones Jr, Holyfield and some others were suspected and caught. Everyone was suspect.
Yes, boxers were most likely doping on the nineties but there's absolutely no reason why they can't do exactly the same now. Boxing has some of the worst anti doping measures of any sport, and if people want to roid up then there is virtually nothing to stop them.
:nono Holyfield was NEVER caught with steroids, nor was he ever linked with steroids by any CREDIBLE (non-tabloid journalistic) source.
Holyfield has never failed a drug test. There's every chance PEDs in boxing are even more common these days
Yes, they could be doping now but what I'm saying is they're not on steroids. Steroids are a form of PED (performance enhancing drugs). I'm sure boxers could be on PEDs now but I'm just saying in the 90's it was steroids. That said, I'm not convinced they're doping now. What could they possibly be on? Not steroids, they don't have the muscled look. Creatine is legal in all sports so that's fine. EPO is not really useful for boxing as it's not a pure endurance sport. Testosterone is easy to test for. I suspect if they're on anything its nothing major.
As i said, no credible source has ever fingered Holy for steroid use. Nor has he ever failed a drug test.
Sorry mate, there's so much wrong with that post. 1) Of course they can be on anabolic steroids. Peterson just failed a drugs test for testosterone - an anabolic steroid. Steroids can be used to bulk up, but they're primarily used to help you train harder for longer and recover quicker. There's no reason for anabolic steroids to be any less prevalent now than in the 90's. Unless they sign up for extra testing (like Peterson) fighters take one post fight drug test (if that) and you basically have to be an idiot to fail a test if you know when it is. Fighters are basically just as free to take steroids now as at any time in the past. 2) Saying EPO wouldn't help boxers is ridiculous. EPO is a drug which increases the amount of red (oxygen carrying blood cells) your body creates. This means that you are able to get more oxygen to your muscles, giving you greater stamina and muscular endurance. This enables fighters to throw more punches in a fight without tiring, as well as move around more without tiring. How can this possible NOT be an advantage? 3) What can they be using? An absolute hoard of stuff: - Anabolic steroids - human growth hormone - EPO - diuretics - stimulants
Haven't you guys ever seen anyone with a great build who rarely works out and doesn't eat right? Some of those guys might be suspicious but there are a fair amount of people who develop muscle without even lifting weights. Holyfields heart condition is suspicious, as are the events around his Evan fields incident, but the move from fifteen to twelve really attracted a more mesomorphic type of athlete who was less like a Hopkins sugar ray Leonard marathon build and more like a tank. Nowadays everyone grew up on video games and is a lazy p o s. Modern training did not take into account real athletes now go into football and other sports. Just hate accusing these guys wholesale, especially someone like eubank who had a good build and was tough and smart but was just not extraordinary in any physical way like speed and power and work rate.
So investigators who raided a company providing steroids to athletes calling a number of one of their customers and getting through to Evander Holyfield is not credible? What exactly would be credible for you? Marion Jones never failed a drugs test either, and she took 160 or so and was juiced up to the eyeballs for every one of them.