I don't know, not that long ago I was addicted to ice cream, went through more than 4 litres a week by myself! :yikes Now I only have maybe 1/2 litre a week. I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream, I will stop eating ice cream............. nut:nut
1/2 ltr in a week in nothing......when I eat ice cream.....I pig out....once a month.... its 1ltr at a time...unless my wife or daughter catches me..then I gotta share :-(
About 3 years ago I stumbled on the paleo diet while web browsing (as you do), it caught my attention because it's pretty logical. I followed it strctly for around 10 weeks and lost 6-7kg (from 71kg to 64kg) very easily. Prior to that we ate far too much **** food. After the 10 weeks, we got jack of being so strict we started bringing in other foods and I put it all back on. Especially after I was back to the ice cream. Now (for the last 2 years) we follow the rules of little to no processed food, but we still allow some other stuff which the paleo diet doesn't. Obviously we cook our food too, something which strict paleo's say no to. Almost no This content is protected food in our diet, and we both feel very good for it. As I mentioned earlier, DR visits are many years apart, rarely get the common cold, and generally feel very good all the time. This content is protected
I filmed this expert on this the other night. She works with Cricket Australia - Sydney Swans etc Her main point was 2.34 gm per kilo body weight each day is optimum. Any more and all you are doing is crapping it out. and inside 1 hour before training you must have 10 gms of quality protein ( meat, milk, diary etc) in your system. And then back that up within an hour after you train. For a guy doing serious training daily diet was 2 eggs - 2 toast in morning - fruit protein bar - shake for snack mid morning Salad Sandwich with protien lunch - ham etc - 2 if training hard + 200 gm yoghurt Same snack afternoon - fruit Stir Fried meat - with Vegies for dinner Talked alot about hydration and the need to drink electrolite type waters during training to encourage thirst and rehydrate. PM me if you want a copy of the talk.
Gday Kornflakes (KFlex), Great to see you kicked on big time mate. I'm going to order some protein powder from you guys instead of buying Musashi next time I stock up. Cheers
I know that business is business but the mark up from companies like bsc and musashi is almost criminal I reckon
Good to see you are still around Zelky too. I read this forum most days of the week, but rarely post here as it does seem to be a bit Mundine/Green focussed. Reminds me of the old World of Boxing Days, long gone now, unfortunately even the Yuku board (old EZ) board really only just trundles along now. Sox, you make some good points about diet and the fact the need for supplements is unnecessary for so many people, but the statements are a bit sweeping. For a start, many many professionals who have no connection with the industry do recommend certain supps, it just depends on how educated they are. There is a masisve amount of bull**** on the market, which unfortunately some respond to by saying "everything is ****", which I don't think is fair. I'll give some examples. Supplements can be very handy in situations when someone wants to increase aspects of their diet, while maintaining (but not increasing) others. Protein as an example is a good one, if someone is dieting (doing an atkins based diet) particularly if their sport involves the need to hold onto muscle food reduction generally means protein reduction. In a case where someone wanted to have 250g of protein a day and only say 50g of carbs, getting that from food would be very difficult. Supplements also offer very economical and convenient ways of getting nutrition into the body. If one wants protein at night before bed, a shake (consisting of say raw WPC) will be much more convenient and cheaper than getting this protein from meat. Whey protein is a good example of a supp that is very close to whole food anyway, with a great blend of vitamins and minerals naturally occuring. Compounds like Creatine, Beta Alanine, Citrulline Malate are all very well researched to assist with either strength or endurance, and levels of these just can't be attained from food. There are numerous studies out there on the benefits of them, and yes they are independent in nature, not conducted by supp companies. They are very popular as people get real world results from them too, I would literally have hundreds of people who purchase these from me, and I am sure not all are having a placebo effect. The same goes for compounds that can increase the metabolism, helping weight loss and other goods that assist hormone production and the skelatal system. My advice is for everyone thinking of taking a certain supp, work on getting your diet spot on first, then implement any supp one at a time - so you can properly see it's results. Research it very will first, seeking from independent sources. When possible, it is best to stick to a single ingredient too, that way the chance of getting benefits consistent to those in any study are more likely.
Or uneducated. I did offer a correction to that, by saying, 'Many (most) supplements are ****, in my opinion'. I stand by that, and also by the following 'All supplements are unnecessary if you eat right, in my opinion'. Herein lies the first problem. Fad diets such as the one you just mentioned are crap. Eggs, tuna, etc. As a bonus you get all the other goodness from those foods. You can also bet your gonads the quality of protein in these foods is far superior to what's found in supplements. Next big problem, economy. We should never cut corners with our diet. Economy and convenience shouldn't come into it, especially for a professional athlete. And you'd still be missing out on other goodness and nutrients that real food provides. An egg shake is just as convenient, and probably no more expensive. And MUCH better for you. Even a couple tins of Tuna is not inconvenient or expensive. With all due respect, you would say that, but it's a long way from the truth. I doubt that very much. Most reliable sources I've seen have pretty much showed that supplements are unnecessary if adhering to proper diet. This isn't even considering the side effects of supplements. I don't doubt you, but you and I both know they aren't eating right. Helping weight loss! You're not serious are you? This once again, just goes back to proper diet. All this may encourage is crap diet. Magic pills are not the answer. We're gonna have to agree to disagree here, because healthy people who eat right will not benefit from any kind of supplement, no matter what state of athleticism they're at. Only the people who won't eat right, the sick, and/or elederly can benefit from supplements. And then they should be seeking advice from their Doctor, not a supplement company.
