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  1. Florida boy

    Florida boy Bodacious Full Member

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    i saw a thread about a guys list of his 55 top heavyweight punchers of all time. he had John L. Sullivan and a bunch of old timers in the top 10, and Wlad and all the modern guys at the bottom. just thought it was funny that someone could think that the dwarf heavys of olden days could hit harder then a guy like Wlad, or even Lennox Lewis.
     
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    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did they mean punchers, or hard punchers? Either way, Lewis is top notch, Klitscho is getting there.
     
  3. joekirkbycobra

    joekirkbycobra King Of The Ring Full Member

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    i saw that before
    i think it was meant 2 be old to new
    it said chronological but im not sure what it means
     
  4. Florida boy

    Florida boy Bodacious Full Member

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    id have to look again.
     
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    Bigcat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Friday told me several years ago that from everyone he ever faced in a fight or even in sparring Wlad was the man with that superhuman edge, he cracked with awesome power.. Friday has been in with Ibragimov.. Klitschko, Tyson, Lewis, Rahman, Povetkin, Holyfield.. He found WK the hardest hitter... But Lewis the best heavyweight he shared the ring with, he did some extrordinary things.. Such a skilled man..
     
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    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I always thought that those real old-timers like Marciano, Dempsey or Joe Louis would all get KTFO by Lewis or Tyson. They all are just too small, too weak for modern monsters. The sport in general has improven so much those guys don't stand a chance.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  7. Florida boy

    Florida boy Bodacious Full Member

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    I agree, i dont think the old school cats could hang.
     
  8. joe33

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    Your half wrong id say,if men like rahman and mccall can KO lewis and douglas can beat tyson then pray tell how the old guys would not?,it just all depends on the day
     
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    The list was in chronological order, as in order of time. That's why all the new fighters were at the bottom.
     
  10. carll68

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    Thats the correct answer...also, we will never really know who hits harder..the sceintific formula to determine force is
    (Net Force) = ((Mass)*(Speed)2)/(Path Radius) so many variables come into play when considering who truly hits with the msot force. in simlisitc terms, if a boxer 250lbs throws a punch 3 feet at a velocity of 20 MPH, his force is less than a 175 boxer who throws the same 3 ft blow at 40 mph (speed). This factors leverage also, because that equates to speed and mass.​
     
  11. Florida boy

    Florida boy Bodacious Full Member

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    cuz they fought in that goofy, arms out stance and, especially Sullivan, when he fought, there were so many rounds that sometimes only 2 or 3 punches were thrown a round.
     
  12. carll68

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    there were so many rounds that sometimes only 2 or 3 punches were thrown a round.

    Well..thats true sometimes today as well....and was not the general rule back then....there are always exceptions one way ot another (Tua/Ike)
     
  13. Florida boy

    Florida boy Bodacious Full Member

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    everything ive read about the early days of boxing/bareknuckle was that when fights went over 15, sometimes only one punch was thrown, it was more of an indurance contest. and i forget Tua, he would destroy most of those guys, even if they tried to box.
     
  14. freelaw

    freelaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah, I guess so... A puncher's chance is always a puncher's chance, isnt't it?

    Still I find it hard to imagine.