The Goldenboy curse

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  1. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Seems every fighter they have brought through the ranks from turning over has failed like Ortiz and Jacobs along with other stars they have hyped up falling short like Linares and Juarez.

    In fact I can't remember a Goldenboy fighter that has won 3 major fights in a row while signed with them. Hopkins, De La Hoya, Mosley, Barerra, Marquez, Guzman and Casamayor all lost major fights under GBP
     
  2. cheekyvid

    cheekyvid Detroit, I shall return. Full Member

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    so?
    surely this should be a good thing? it shows they dont just protect boxers and keep ridiculous unbeaten records ala JC. it might prove that they are willing to get more competitive match-ups which is good for the sport and in the long run hopefully the importance of an unbeaten record will become less
    although i think amir khan is certainly looking to be protected
     
  3. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    No such thing as a curse. Goldenboy tend to pick guys up and match them tough to see how far they can go. Better to find out early than late.
     
  4. ScouseLad

    ScouseLad Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd be far more worried if they had 10s of fighters who were at the top level and never ever lost.
     
  5. iron fist monk

    iron fist monk New Member Full Member

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    yeah when Linares just signed with GB, he got sparked out in 73 secs. They do have some curse lingerring on them..
     
  6. royalt0208

    royalt0208 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't really rate Golden Boy when it comes to their promotion and building stars but they are far better than Top Rank for taking risks.
     
  7. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    well whats going on with kon:huh
     
  8. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. Plus Ortiz has not failed. He lost a fight, he's young, he can come back from it.
     
  9. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Khan was already a world titlist when they got him. And I don't believe they're protecting him for a minute. They want a Marquez fight as much for Marquez's sake (and the purse that would go with it). Since they picked him up they put him right in with Malignaggi - not an easy night's work for any fighter usually.

    Also, we don't know for definite who he's fighting next. And Marquez is still good enough to knock the **** out of Khan.
     
  10. Flea Man

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    I would've advised GBP from signing Linares anyway, he's never impressed me too much, surprised he dropped Rocky last night though, Jorge has little pop and Juarez is as durable as they come.

    I really liked Pirog, but his small shifts in movement and changing of tempo really impressed me. I knew Jacobs had no power, but he really didn't offer much in the way of educated lateral movement or handspeed, I was really let down by him. Pirog always looked like he would go on to win, despite the scorecards at the time of the stoppage.

    A curse? No. Just seems GBP has got their hands on/perpetuated some hyped fighters that have shown little in the way of real fighting substance (so far, a loss means little in the grand scheme of things) and Ortiz for example has got a decent scalp despite being battered in the last year.
     
  11. iron fist monk

    iron fist monk New Member Full Member

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    why was katsidis there? Is he expecting to face marquez next?
     
  12. Tommy O C

    Tommy O C VIVA LA MEXICO!!!! Full Member

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    Jacobs and Mares are the only golden boy fighters that have been there since turning and fought for world titles. Mares drew, jacobs got KOd by a guy who looks quality. Ortiz started at top rank but anyway his only loss was to a guy who hits hard as hell. Hardly a curse. At least GBP give their prospects tough fights
     
  13. dftaylor

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    If only GBP had you as their agent, huh?
     
  14. Flea Man

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    I'd much rather see it. JMM is the man at 135 and Katsidis is the no.2. It would no doubt be exciting, and as Katsidis whacks harder than Diaz there's always the chances he'll force Marquez's ever ageing legs to go out.

    I don't wanna see Marquez fed to Khan, Amir will win a boring decision and Marquez's name will essentially be getting used to make Khan more marketable.

    JMM Vs Katsidis should happen. Hopefully im right and Khan continues to be protected (or fights someone his own size) and we get to see this instead, the best fight at 135lbs.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    All I'm saying, any discerning fan couldve told them he wasn't worth the investment.