"The Greatest" H2H

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Well I hold no grudges against any nationalities myself
     
  2. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No humour, eh? Guess you are more German than English, then. :good
     
  3. Flea Man

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    Sorry mate, I was referring to McGrains point :lol: at this
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    I'll go for Holmes ,followed by Lewis.
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The ones with the best chance,I think,would be Joe Frazier,Ken Norton and Joe Louis.
     
  6. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    between these two it is obviously tyson. he was stronger , faster and about the same chin , probably more. he also had the better boxing technique , he proved it many times against much bigger and opposing opponents whom frazier would have ended on the lower hand most of the times had he faced them. tyson massacred holmes , berbick , spinks , bruno , smith , ruddock and more.
    all of these guys would have at least given hell to a prime ali.
    who knows ? maybe ali could have taken tyson the distance. after all , mind you , he was so much bigger , but tyson would have won on effective aggressiveness.
     
  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Holmes would always have been a tough match for Ali,true. I simply can't imagine the likes of Berbick,Spinks,Bruno,Smith and Ruddock being anything more than minor irritations to a prime Muhammad.
     
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    What's a mook?

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  9. PetethePrince

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    Possibly, perhaps probably. But Frazier had that work-rate swarming style. Tyson was a mid-range bomber. A little different. The longer the fight goes the better Ali's chances. That's not quite the case with Frazier. They are a little different. Tyson's the biggest and faster Dempsey, while Frazier is the swarming workhorse.
     
  10. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    his lesser brother came on equal terms with a not that old ali , while he himself came on even terms twice with that holmes , he'd end at least as good as his brother against any version of ali you will pick.
     
  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you just forgot that except of tyson's size and power he also had a much better chin. in his prime better than frazier's chin.
     
  12. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Mike Tyson
    Riddick Bowe
    Larry Holmes
     
  14. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Only Tyson and Holmes. Tyson's style was perfect to beat Holmes and the Ali clones of the 80s. Tyson's speed of hand and foot speed are a near match for Ali. Combined that with his pressure and Ali's lack of power means Tyson is going to land, Ali is open to good left hookers and Tysons is 1 of the best left hooks in history, Tysons fast jab is an that will see Ali makes mistakes. Tysons head movement would also see Ali miss more these accustomed to. Tysons combination throwing, precision and power makes him a bigger threat of stopping Ali that anyone the greatest ever faced. I do think Alis movement, jab, reach and combinations would bamboozle Tyson at times and as long as Ali gets out of the early rounds hes going to take over the show down the stretch and win a hard UD

    Holmes because hes a great boxer with an amazing jab and that could neutralise Alis speed somewhat and win him rounds in a close fight, I'd pick Ali but that would be close
     
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    My thoughts exactly.:thumbsup