"The Greatest" H2H

Well I hold no grudges against any nationalities myself

 

No humour, eh? Guess you are more German than English, then. :good

 

Sorry mate, I was referring to McGrains point at this

 

I'll go for Holmes ,followed by Lewis.

 

The ones with the best chance,I think,would be Joe Frazier,Ken Norton and Joe Louis.

 

between these two it is obviously tyson. he was stronger , faster and about the same chin , probably more. he also had the better boxing technique , he proved it many times against much bigger and opposing opponents whom frazier would have ended on the lower hand most of the times had he faced them. tyson massacred holmes , berbick , spinks , bruno , smith , ruddock and more.
all of these guys would have at least given hell to a prime ali.
who knows ? maybe ali could have taken tyson the distance. after all , mind you , he was so much bigger , but tyson would have won on effective aggressiveness.

 

Holmes would always have been a tough match for Ali,true. I simply can't imagine the likes of Berbick,Spinks,Bruno,Smith and Ruddock being anything more than minor irritations to a prime Muhammad.

 

What's a mook?

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Possibly, perhaps probably. But Frazier had that work-rate swarming style. Tyson was a mid-range bomber. A little different. The longer the fight goes the better Ali's chances. That's not quite the case with Frazier. They are a little different. Tyson's the biggest and faster Dempsey, while Frazier is the swarming workhorse.

 

his lesser brother came on equal terms with a not that old ali , while he himself came on even terms twice with that holmes , he'd end at least as good as his brother against any version of ali you will pick.

 

you just forgot that except of tyson's size and power he also had a much better chin. in his prime better than frazier's chin.

 

Louis

 

Mike Tyson
Riddick Bowe
Larry Holmes

 

Only Tyson and Holmes. Tyson's style was perfect to beat Holmes and the Ali clones of the 80s. Tyson's speed of hand and foot speed are a near match for Ali. Combined that with his pressure and Ali's lack of power means Tyson is going to land, Ali is open to good left hookers and Tysons is 1 of the best left hooks in history, Tysons fast jab is an that will see Ali makes mistakes. Tysons head movement would also see Ali miss more these accustomed to. Tysons combination throwing, precision and power makes him a bigger threat of stopping Ali that anyone the greatest ever faced. I do think Alis movement, jab, reach and combinations would bamboozle Tyson at times and as long as Ali gets out of the early rounds hes going to take over the show down the stretch and win a hard UD

Holmes because hes a great boxer with an amazing jab and that could neutralise Alis speed somewhat and win him rounds in a close fight, I'd pick Ali but that would be close

 

My thoughts exactly.:thumbsup