The Klitscho Monopoly

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  1. Popshots

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    There is Vitali's age though, ...but who knows..., guys like Oliver McCall, Ray Mercer, and even Evander Holyfield are still going at it.
     
  3. Popshots

    Popshots Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry I spelled klitschko wrong, I know I'll never hear the end of it lol.
     
  4. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its most Wlad that is lacking in the sack department. It was Wlad that should have rematched, Sanders, Peter. but Vitali is the one that had to do it. It was Wlad that should be fighting Haye, but in the end it will be Vitali that will do it. Sad thing is the Klit fans dont see then as different when it comes to thing like this. Its like they think that VK beatting a fighter somehow proves that Wlad could have also done it.

    As far as the monopoly....We will see, I personally think that all the heavyweights suck, and during the last era they wouldnt have done as well. Lewis did stop VK and he would have beatten WK even quicker. There are fighters today that Im pretty sure that would beat Wlad, but those fighters are being avoided and have been avoided by Wlad...Vitali im not so sure about, I think that he is the best heavyweight going and not Wlad.
     
  5. petrozza

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    Why should Wlad have rematched Peter? He beat him the only time they fought...
     
  6. eze

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    Sanders turned down Wladimir for a rematch opting to fight Vitali instead.

    Peter after losing to Wlad never earned a rematch.
     
  7. Liberty

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    So much in your post is wrong:

    1. As a huge Klitschko fan, I do not think that who Vitali beats Wlad can beat also. I believe that Vitali could've beat Lennox if the fight wasnt stopped of VK v LL 2 would happen (Lennox barely breathing when told that he won, and Klitschko walking to his seat as if he never fought only a few sweats and a bloody face - proves the point. Plus all the judges, Merchant, are on this side) But I greatly doubt Wlad could've beat Lennox.

    2. Why does Wlad need to rematch Peter?

    3. Wlad was going to fight Haye, but Haye pulled out. And if you were a boxer and some opponent made that many promisses to you (Chelsea Stadium, fight in March/April, 2 then 3 then 4 weeks postponent of the fight) and including the fact that he only fought two fights against mediocre opponents and everyone else has to be in line, you too would make a decision by Wlad. But sometimes we dislike someone so much, that even when we know that they make the right decision we wont agree to it.

    4. Nobody knows yet whether Vitali or Wlad will be fighting Haye.

    5. All HWs dont suck. There are thousands of professional upcomming HW boxers. I doubt you met all of them. The current ones dont suck that much either. They look bad next to Klitschkos, and thats different.

    6. Klitschkos dont suck no matter what period you put them in. Even in Ali/Frasier time they would be great boxers. Surely, not the best, but nonetheless no easy competition.

    7. Who is Wlad avoiding? Maybe a fighter that might not bring any money at all because he just started his pro career (some underdog that is working his way up and might be the next lineal champion in a few years). But who else? And everytime I see a post about Wlad avoiding some boxer, a year or two down the road Wlad either fights him and beats him, or that boxer that everyone think Wlad is avoiding loses to some other boxer and Wlad beats that other boxer and needs to prove nothing to the other opponent. So sure Wlad is avoiding some. But he cannot have a fight a day, just to make sure he doesnt avoid someone. Yet, he is not avoiding the important boxers.

    Please consider your words when you post.
     
  8. pmfan

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    Which contender would beat Wlad? Pick a name. When Wlad fights him make sure to give him credit if he beats him. This has happened time and time again in this forum. Byrd was supposed to get inside and rough up Wlad in their second fight. Brock, was the young american that was going to outfight Wlad. Hah.

    When Wlad smokes Arreola, you'll all say Arreola wasn't so great after all. This is not really a serious boxing forum at all, is it? No one is held to account.

    And that bozo that fought a draw with Sultan. Well we saw how long he lasted against Wlad. Ruslan has a very good chin, and was still knocked down. Haye would have been on ***** street from that right hand (maybe from a jab). Now that Haye has blown his chance, let him become a mandatory.

    As to Peter, Wlad won almost every second that fight, and two of the three knockdowns were by illegal blows/pushes to the back of the head. The most concussive punch was landed by Wlad in the last round when he spun Peter around from a left hook. He didn't need a rematch. and he did give rematches to Byrd and one of the fighters to defeat him.
     
  9. speedmaster

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    Wlad didnt have a rematch clause in the Sanders fight and paid for it.Wlad called for an immediate rematch and made it public that he wanted it.It was Sanders who declined the rematch,instead holding out for a more lucrative match with Vitali.The same happened with the Brewster loss,Wlad called for a rematch and Brewster declined,using the excuse that Wlad disrespected his win by claiming excuses,so he refused to rematch Wlad.Seems to be a pattern that nobody wants to fight Wlad twice unless they have to.Byrd was forced to take on a rematch or lose his belt,something he reluctantly did and the result shows why he had apprehension.It puts into perspective the rematch clause that Wlad forces his Opponents to sign,he learned by his mistakes by not having them in the past.You can call him whatever you want but a ***** he is not.
     
  10. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    98% of the heavyweights suck

    you just saw how bad the WBA heavyweight champ was...he didnt win a round against wlad
     
  11. Liberty

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    Put two 300-storied building in Manhattan, people would say that all the other buildings are small. Than take the two buildings out, and then people would say what they do today, "Manhattan is full of high-risers."

    Take the Klitsckos out, and the Heavyweight division would see a little better, and more competitive. Put them back in, and everyone, only in comparison, sucks. (Surely if the current pro-HW boxers gave as much time to their training as the Klitschkos do, then the HW division would be better in deed).
     
  12. Cachibatches

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    No one "should be fighting Haye."

    Haye has not earned anything.

    And he pulled out of a signed fight.
     
  13. stiga

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    im not excited at HW for now....the brother have been so dominating...
     
  14. Farmboxer

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    Yes, Sanders refused to give Vlad a rematch. Vlad would have knocked him out if it had happened.

    Brewster refused to give Vlad a rematch until he lost the title, then Vlad easily stopped him. If not for the drugging Vlad would have stopped Brewster in the first fight.
     
  15. Chiko_Tech

    Chiko_Tech Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad next fight is his mandatory against Povetkin, Haye lost his spot at fighting Wlad, Haye need to look at a Vitaly fight.