Throwing fights

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  1. He Hate Me

    He Hate Me Active Member Full Member

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    In the moder era of boxing do you recall a match were you thought a fighter threw a fight. I don't hold this belief but some believe the dela hoya vs bernard hopkins fight was a little suspect.
     
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    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When I was watching it live and delahoya got hit with that body shot I thought it was fixed. But after replaying it a few times I think he just got caught, I mean who throws a fight with a body shot?
     
  3. Jose FM

    Jose FM Well-Known Member Full Member

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    why would that fight be thrown, i think Hopkins was the favorite so it should of been the other way around if anything.
     
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    Journeyman heavyweight Tim Anderson said he threw fights on the request of his manager.

    He later murdered that manager.
     
  5. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Some one who doesn't want to get hit flush anymore.

    The problem isn't that he went down from that punch, the problem is that he stayed down to avoid further punishment. Bernard had all his weight on his right foot, was leaning to the right and threw an arm punch with his left.

    There is no way that that punch should have kept Oscar down. Sure, it may have been placed in the perfect spot to drop him, but in no way shape or form should that have ended the fight. Watch Castillo when he had 4 ribs broken. You don't roll around and punch ****. You don't drop all the way to the canvas, you take a knee and dont move because it hurts too much to move.

    Very suspect, but certainly not a fix.
     
  6. He Hate Me

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    very good attention to detail.
     
  7. box03

    box03 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah it was a little wierd, it looked more like he got the wind knocked out of him. I just cant see a professional like delahoya staying done from a punch like that.
     
  8. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    If youre hurt that badly to the body you don't move. And there are hundreds upon hundreds of fighters and or bouts that can back this claim.
     
  9. dav8d777

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    The problem boxing has with thrown fights, in my opinion, is that it is too easy to do. Also there is just WAY too much money involved.

    First, you only have to recruit one fighter. He still gets his purse, plus a percentage of the betting. Then, if you can't buy one of the fighters you can always buy a judge.

    For instance, and this is purely hypothetical, but in the de la Hoya / Mayweather fight there was some judge who said Mayweather lost. Just for the sake of argument let's say many people knew Mayweather would win, but not with a knockout. Putting money on a split decision would be very lucrative.

    I know... I got off of the subject, but any time I see a situation I don't understand I just follow the money, and in boxing it's a LOT of money.

    rj
     
  10. Thread Stealer

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    I've seen many bodyshot KOs, and none of them looked as weak as Hopkins-De La Hoya, and they always freeze in pain instead of rolling around on the canvas.

    Oscar didn't "throw" the fight (there was no pre-arrangement), but he would hardly be the first fighter to quit, especially a fighter who's already achieved a great deal.
     
  11. box03

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    I completely understand what your saying, in the gym where i go i dont know anyone that hasnt gotten the wind knocked out of them. You just keep fighting and hope it goes away, then again I was hit with a body shot and my lights went out thank god it was in sparring cause if it was a real fight I would of been like delahoya down for the count.
     
  12. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    Good to see we agree on this one.
     
  13. Darthmage

    Darthmage SILENCE! I KEEL J00! Full Member

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    I can only half-understand what you just said. Are you saying that PBF winning by SD rather than UD would change the amount of money being won or lost? Isn't a win a win ragardless of TKO or SD or UD in betting? I am only asking because obviously, I DON'T KNOW.
     
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    You can bet on a UD, SD, Draw, stoppage, stoppage in what round, over-under, etc...

    Lots to choose from.