Undisputed Champions

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  1. mugen82

    mugen82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye woulda beat the snot out of USS cunningham, and i think he woulda done the same to Adamek.

    Holyfield held all the titles at cruiserweight except WBO.

    As did Michael Spinks, however there was no WBO at the time, so i guess u can say Spinks was truly undisputed.
     
  2. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, back then you had the likes of Hagler, Curry and later Tyson who had the big 3 and were truly undisputed.
     
  3. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    RJJ was unlucky not to have held all 4 - titles he held during his first stint at light-heavy:

    WBA
    WBC
    IBF
    IBO

    And...
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    WBF
    IBA
    NBA

    :lol:
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Michal.... was stripped of most of them then RJJ won them
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Back then you never had domestic level fighters becoming mandatories.

    If you were the champion, you were either the best, or at worst the second best in a division.

    These days, you could be the best fighter in the world.... without holding a title.
     
  6. mugen82

    mugen82 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    RJJ can never be said to be undisputed in any division, he point blank refused to fight Tiger, and also Politricked his way into getting his WBC title, rather than fighting Rocchigiani.
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Undisputed is a very strange term, literally we so far have never had an undisputed champion as even if a fighter held all the world titles some challenger would dispute his claim in a fight...

    But undisputed as a boxing term came redundant when Tommy Hearns fought Kinchen for the WBO 168lbs belt, and first gave that organization some mainstream exposure...

    The IBF, like the WBC and WBO, may of been ******* off spring of the WBA (NBA), but at least they used sound judgement in giving IBF belts to dominant champions when they were formed in 83 (Holmes, Spinks, Hagler and Curry).
     
  8. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Undisputed really means the WBC, WBA and IBF. Lewis-Holy was for the undisputed title as was Hopkins-Trinidad and Zoo-Judah.
     
  9. Chinny

    Chinny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Zab Judah was undisputed (ex WBO) welterweight champ a few years ago after beating Cory Spinks (who had beaten Mayorga)

    As Chris Rock said "if it's undisputed, what's all the f&%king fighting for?"
     
  10. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    The WBO are on the same level as the other 3 unfortunatley.

    I seem to remember Juan Diaz and Nate Campbell held the WBA, WBO and IBF titles but were not seen as Undisputed because Casamayor was WBC and Ring champion.
     
  11. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    There's really no logical reason at this point to include the IBF, but not include the WBO.
     
  12. Will

    Will Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hamed would have
     
  13. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    why those 3 belts and not WBO. Going through the divisions some of the WBO champs are the best in the divisions.

    W. Klitscko, Pavlik, Pacquiao, Bradley, JM Marquez, JM Lopez, Ivan Calderon are all WBO Title holders.