USADA vs VADA

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  1. monaim

    monaim Member Full Member

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    Which is more relatively competent? Clean? Better?
     
  2. Ivan28

    Ivan28 Active Member Full Member

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    it's all about politics, power and money.Like "anti drugs" institutions, which are made to earn money, power and control the distribution of the drugs, not to prevent it.
     
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  3. ALEX FORRESTER

    ALEX FORRESTER New Member banned Full Member

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    USADA is 24/7/365
    VADA testing is a contracted period of time. So there’s ways to circumvent VADA testing and most times it’s scheduled and the boxers are notified when the Doping Control Officer’s will pay them a visit. That’s the reason the UFC terminated their contract with USADA, because too many of their fighters were testing positive and it was causing bad publicity.
     
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  4. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    $$$$$
     
  5. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Basically! Lol!

    Whichever promoter has enough of THAT to put in an envelope will have the cleanest results. Uncle Eddie and that guy Haymon have plenty.
     
  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Complicated question because boxing isn't like other sports as there is no single unified governing body for the sport.

    USADA Testing for other sports is 24/7, 365 days a year but because of boxings fractured nature there is no single boxing authority with USADA to organise a proper testing system for boxing on a world wide scale.

    VADA was created by a bunch of doctors already involved in boxing. While in terms of testing in boxing in the US before VADA 's creation it is undoubtedly superior to what came before as testing wasn't even something that was consistently done with every fight due to testing coming under the remit of the local boxing commission where every commission had different rules on testing boxers, it's still woefully inadequate. VADA only has deals with the WBC and WBA to test their top ranked boxers, which means the vast majority of US based boxers who are not ranked in these sanctioning bodies rankings are not tested by VADA. Plus those few fighters that are tested are not randomly tested 24/7, 365 days a year like USADA.

    Suffice to say within boxing drug testing in the US is woefully inadequate whether it's USADA or VADA, neither really can compare to any other major sport.
     
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  7. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    USADA was paid off by Floyd so he could cheat freely. Everybody knows he was on every available PED.
     
  8. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which one has caught more fighters? Should be a simple answer.
     
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  9. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A very interesting link that completely exposes USADA
    https://www.sbnation.com/longform/2015/9/9/9271811/can-boxing-trust-usada
    Manny refused the first contract for the Mayweather fight as it stated,if either was to fail a test for peds the testers would say it was under TUE ! Maywether was then caught using an illegal iv fir the fight which the USADA then covered it up by issuing a retroactive TUE 18 days after the fight ! USADA did not notify Mannys team or the NSAC until after the TUE had been granted !
     
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  10. Mickc

    Mickc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Or another part to the question should be which organisation “ looked after” the most fighters ?
     
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  11. box33

    box33 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good to see one person pay attention to that, that was one of the road blocks for why the fight didn't get signed basically Floyd if caught cheating would be allowed to be granted a TUE for it & wouldn't have to notify Team Pacquiao about it ever happening hence he found out months later for him using an illegal IV triple the dose.
     
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  12. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Both are corrupt. Both for sale. So, any comparison is reasonably pointless
     
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    SpeedKills Well-Known Member Full Member

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    VADA. Guys actually have to skirt VADA, they avoid it, they limit it to as little testing as possible, they duck the testers (get 3 misses). USADA was wholly corrupt in boxing. VADA is legit albeit limited in power/money.
     
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    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is actually interesting, didnt know that
     
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  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    I think you may find it was the NSAC that issued the statement " Mr Mayweather has done nothing wrong so we will not be investigating this matter" Then They issued the retroactive Tue in an attempt to clear Floyd
    Who can you trust these days?
     
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