usyk vs muhammad ali

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Ali va usyk

  1. Usyk k.o

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  2. Usyk u.d

    44 vote(s)
    30.1%
  3. Ali u.d

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    44.5%
  4. Ali k.o

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    16.4%
  1. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    they are both heavyweights... both very talented but usyk is smaller... what is clear to me is that the heavyweights of the past are tiny compared to those of now
     
  2. NaiKoN

    NaiKoN M Power! Full Member

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    Ohhh here we go… Usyk won a close fight against Joshua who is not a top boxer himself and now you are matching Usyk with Ali…
     
  3. SmackDaBum

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    Usyk is much better Than Ali. Same Size range and and athletecism but skill gap is huge.
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Ali never threw a bodypunch in his life
     
  5. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    ali barely beat little joe frazier... ali is another overrated heavyweight who fought pure little men like him
     
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    The vast majority of Ali's opponents were smaller than him, whereas for Usyk he will usually be the smaller man.
     
  7. PlechkoisTyson

    PlechkoisTyson Member banned Full Member

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    Uysk hammers Ali.

    Ali isnt as slick as people think, he was a glorified punchbag
     
  8. ShortRound

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    1966 Mildenberger Ali (204 lbs) wasn't even bigger than Usyk, Usyk from the 2013 WSB was 8 lbs heavier.
     
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  9. ShortRound

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    1966 Ali vs 2018 Usyk

    Ali: 24 years old, started boxing age 12, 88 confirmed amateur bouts with a record of 80-8 (3 rounders, 247 rounds max) 25 pro (144 rounds contested) stopped 9 pro opponents who were 197+ lbs

    Usyk: 31 years old, started boxing age 15, 350 amateur bouts with a record of 335-15 (3-4 rounders, 1076-1332 rounds max) 6 WSB (25 rounds contested) 14 pro (105 rounds contested) stopped 11 WSB/pro opponents who were 197+ lbs (pre-rehydration)

    Ali had been knocked down from head shots twice in the previous 15 fights/4.5 years (Sonny Banks, Henry Cooper) hadn’t fought a southpaw in 6 years, had lost to at least two southpaws in the amateurs (Kent Green by KO, Amos Johnson by SD) and 2013 Usyk was heavier than 20/25 of Ali’s pre-Mildenberger opponents, as well as 8 lbs heavier than 1966 Ali.

    1966 Ali went life and death with European champion southpaw Mildenberger over 12 rounds (154-144 punches landed out of 612-538 thrown according to Compubox) who was 6’1.5 with a 73 inch reach, 195 lbs, had been KO’d twice, registered a 31% KO ratio with 0 KO’s in his previous 5 fights and had a 52-12 amateur record, with winning the German LHW championship being his best amateur accomplishment.

    Usyk has studied Ali extensively and has modern advantages in terms of training and "nutrition".

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    If we take off the nostalgia goggles it's clearly a complete mismatch.
     
  10. PlechkoisTyson

    PlechkoisTyson Member banned Full Member

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    complete mismatch. Ali would but ranting incoherently like AJ after 12 rounds getting battered by Uysk
     
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  11. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    Uysk would destroy him inside 3 rounds.
     
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  12. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol A lot of nonsense being posted on this thread. I attribute it to excess alcohol. Usyk beats Joshua and now he is the GOAT.
     
  13. PlechkoisTyson

    PlechkoisTyson Member banned Full Member

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    ya the GOAT.

    Ali was a glorified punch bag.
    Uysk will still be in good health when his career is over
     
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  14. PlechkoisTyson

    PlechkoisTyson Member banned Full Member

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    Ali was part irish which is why he had an iron chin, which was ultimately his downfall
     
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  15. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Put the bottle down. You are incoherent. lol
     
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