Vlad against the top

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  1. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am still not so sure how well Vlad would do against the Punchers or I should add the punchers with Stamina(Louis,Marciano, Frazier,Dempsey (to a point)...Tyson and Lewis never stopped anyone past the 8th (only Ribalta for Tyson) and Foreman had stamina problems early on in a fast paced bout. Still I am not totally convinced that Vlad can get past the punchers. I do feel that Vlad would be a serious problem for the decent punchers like Holmes, Ali, Tunney,Johnson...It is not to say if Vlad fought the perfect fight against these men ( the punchers) he could still win with various tactics. How could Vlad beat these men. Who do you think he would be able to beat and how and who do you think he has no chance to beat

    Foreman
    Frazier
    Marciano
    Liston
    Lewis
    Louis
    Ali
    Holmes
     
  2. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Foreman - either an early, ugly Foreman KO or Wlad outpointing/stopping a gassed Foreman in the late rounds.

    Frazier - Wladimir either KO's him inside of 5 or is stopped late

    Marciano - Same as Frazier

    Liston - Liston KO's him around 7

    Lewis - Lewis via clear UD or stoppage at any time. Small chance Lewis gets KO'd.

    Louis - Either Wlad KO early or Louis KO late

    Ali - Ali UD or stops him when he's tired (think Lyle)

    Holmes - Holmes comfortable UD. This is actually one of the safer picks, too...Holmes will outbox Klitschko and I can't see WK stopping him like he could Lewis.

    I would have Klitschko as, at the worst, a 40/60 underdog against Marciano and Frazier. I'd probably have him even money. 50/50 against Foreman, too. Against the rest he's going uphill.
     
  3. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOL, If WK would fight your list(s) and come out like winning 75-85 % of those fantasy matches said fighters he just beat would be old, never that good, too small etc ect ect , lol, that guy will never get a break.

    Plus I always get a laugh out of those posts by those so called experts and the issue of the gloves never ever comes up...................
     
  4. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True, I think Vlad can be a lot better than given credit for
     
  5. zadfrak

    zadfrak Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about Vitali and some of those guys? I think he is a tougher matchup.
     
  6. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agre, just that we missed a lot of years and at least 10 victories had he been healthy
     
  7. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I agree with many of the picks here. The boxers that lack the power to put him away would be looking at a long night, though. Wlad has one of the finer right hands in history and a guy like Holmes would be troubled by it very much. Not to mention that he has one of the best heavyweight jabs, ever.

    Given the humongous size disparity between him and some older fighters, it's hard to make a prediction for some cases.
     
  8. Ramon Rojo

    Ramon Rojo Active Member Full Member

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    I'm pretty sure Wlad would beat both Marciano and Frazier. I give it 80% chance.
     
  9. teeto

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    This is totally unbiased on my behalf, i want to say ive always felt quite strongly that Frazier stops him, it would likely be brutal aswell in my honest opinion