weight training?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by kirky c, Jan 8, 2011.

  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I never said pushups are too tough. You were the one saying that 1 push up was too much for introductory training.

    I agree about the squats they do put alot of strain on the knees. But once fully fit they can also help strengthen the knees.
     
  2. marciano22

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    I was being sarcastic
     
  3. lefty

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    Speed is speed. Gaining weight is maths. A guy coming back from an injury needs to build up his strength so he doesn't reinjure himself. Noone can build up strength from light weights and if he's doing lots of reps he's programming his muscles to move slowly. Honestly there is nothing better than good old bodyweight exercises when it comes to improving general strength
     
  4. DonBoxer

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    I think your too caught up in Olympic lifting on a boxing forum , in the boxing training section in a thread made by a boxer who is coming off injury and wants to get back into weight training for his BOXING
     
  5. viru§™

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    Thanks for proving my point.
     
  6. DonBoxer

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    I proved it how?
     
  7. viru§™

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    I really have to repeat it again?

    You say lifting heavy weights makes you slower. I counter this by saying olympic lifters lift very heavy weight for few reps yet they are extremely powerful and explosive which disproves your theory about heavy weights making you slower. What sport is irrelevant to the disucssion. The point is heavy weights DO NOT slow you down. Now you keep going on about the OP being a boxer which is irrelevant.

    Are you getting it yet?
     
  8. lefty

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    Gaining weight is more about what you eat. You're not going to lose speed unless you train like a bodybuilder and put on weight.
    Don't ever do light weights with high reps, totally pointless.
    I don't understand why you're so keen on lifting some weights, bodyweight exercises and plyometrics are all a boxer needs.
    If you do want to gain extra power then olympic lifts, squats, deadlifts are going to increase the strength of your legs and that's where the majority of the power of a punch comes from.
     
  9. vonLPC

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    No, no. Look at my earlier post in your thread. This has gone way off base. My post is right. Virus, Lefty, myself have a good working knowledge of weight training but I think right now they are caught up in this side argument.

    I do not mean to be judgmental or anything as usually I am Switzerland, but aside from what I posted or Lefty and Virus suggest in this thread, don't listen to. They are wrong.

    Since you are looking for advice, follow what I proposed to start off then read past threads on this topic by Virus. He gives good advice on weight training. If you can't find it look at Mark Rippetoe's stuff on the internet.
     
  10. DonBoxer

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    The big weight would slow down a boxer. Movement and punching would both slow down . Its very different to the speed required for lifting a weight. Everything i said is in relation to boxing , making it relevant when as you are blabbering on about another sport that is completely irrelevant in this thread.
     
  11. viru§™

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    I give up. You're far too dense or plain ignorant to have a decent discussion.
     
  12. DonBoxer

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    Your just to dead set on this olympic lifting thing when it has nothing to do with boxing.
     
  13. viru§™

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    :patsch :lol:
     
  14. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Olympic lifting would be beneficial to any sport where strength, power and speed are a requirement. Many people don't do them simply because the techniques can take a while to get right.
     
  15. lefty

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    You bring up a good point, I wouldn't recommend anybody to just jump in and try the clean and jerk/snatch or injuries are going to happen. You need to do progressive exercises and practice each part of the lift seperately until you can put it together. Alot of people don't realise that the action of getting the weight up is through an explosive jump and a shrug of the shoulders, most people try to lift the weight above their heads with their arms when they attempt the lifts. It's all in the legs so it's excellent training for sports where power and explosiveness is beneficial, basketball players, boxers etc. are going to get alot out of it.