Were These Knockdowns?

Posted this video in a different thread different reason, but wondered if these 2 are considered KDs.
It happens first 10 seconds.

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Playback at 0.25 and the first one was a slip as the punch clearly didn´t land.
Second one is hard to tell if the punch lands, but Genaro ends up in a squared stance and it looks like he just got pushed over.

 

Yeah, I guess he was so desperate to evade the shot, he knocked himself backwards. Reel-time looks legit. One of the instances where if U are at the fight....U swear he got dropped then get home & watch it...OH..different story.


I could've sworn when I was around 8 or 9th row Arthur Abraham illegally hit Andre Dirrell in the Super-6 tourny. But watching it on tv...I was like...damn...does look suspect. From then on out, if I can't get within 5 rows...I prefer to sit in the front balcony, no ropes to look between or far side of the ring!

 

Watch their feet both times. Both times were stepped on then went down

 

Can I change my vote to both punched where landed right before both went down

 

They were both knocked down
But since both happened with each other stepping on each other’s foot.

Zero Knock downs. Count as slips.

 

None

Floyd has never been knocked down in his life. Amateur, Olympics, pro

 

Lol glad someone else see's this

 

This. No KD in either case.