Where was Freddie Roach

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Saintpat, Jun 11, 2012.


  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's supposed to be the best trainer in the world, but Packo spent more time preaching and gambling than he did training -- hence the fade in the late rounds.

    He's supposed to be the best trainer in the world, and it's his job to get Packo's mind focused -- so why didn't he turn off the TV and say, "F--k this basketball bullspit, you're supposed to be a fighter. It's time to get in the ring. Get your ass up and get ready to fight." It could have sparked some anger, some passion, into Packo and gotten him fired up -- and Freddie, if he was doing his job, could have focused that on Timmy-boy.

    He's supposed to be the best trainer in the world, and he owes it to his fighter to tell him what the situation is and make him understand it. Why didn't he get it across to Packo, "You're only fighting 30 seconds a round. I think you're winning and HBO thinks you're winning, but there's three judges here who may see it differently. You're supposed to be an ATG, you're supposed to be the PFP best in the world. So start showing it for 3 minutes and quit taking rounds off." Remember Angelo Dundee to Leonard against Hearns, "You're blowing it, son."

    Instead, Freddie said, in effect, "You're a big star, Packo. Do what you want. Just make sure I get a check."

    Epic fail.
     
  2. diehardfan

    diehardfan New Member Full Member

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    Roach has said there has been a transition in their working relationship. Basically he works for Pac. It sucks, but at this point, Roach is along for the ride. I see him coaching when he can, but Pac is no doubt in charge.
     
  3. NullpointerAlex

    NullpointerAlex Active Member Full Member

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    No that's what Freddy said, though not entirely sure it's fully in context; At first he was training Manny, then they were both working together, and now he's clearly working for Manny. He doesn't make the rules anymore.
     
  4. Freddie knew the robbery made it better for Pacquiao's career. His stock went up! Miles up! Yahoo has still Pacquiao trending number one in the third day now!

    Here is where Bradley got it all wrong.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxVHLuly1sc[/ame]
     
  5. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    buboy doesn't get the credit he deserves.

    also...someone please teach pac to feint. he's explosive but it gets very predictable after a while.

    don't forget to teach him to cut off the ring too!!!! when timmeh had his feet under him he was spinning pac with ease.
     
  6. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roach likely knew that the fix was in, and that Arum told Manny to go easy, so he figured WTF....
     
  7. Boxing Fanatic

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    im pretty sure freddie was there fuggin them hoes. fug who wouldnt?
     
  8. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whatever the relationship, his responsibility is to speak up.

    So Packo gets mad at him if he turns off the TV -- patch it up later, but get the job done.

    So maybe Packo doesn't listen if he tells him to fight 3 minutes and that me may be giving rounds away -- tell him anyway.

    You don't think there's a certain amount of trust that has built up over the years they have worked together? So play on that, tell him: "Trust me, you need to pick it up. DO NOT leave any doubt."

    O-ver-ra-ted.