which middleweights hit hardest?

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  1. shommel

    shommel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    graziano, hagler or monzon and why?
     
  2. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Based on KO percentage:

    Gennady Golovkin 27 fights /24 KOs= 88%

    Gerald McClellan has an 85%KO ratio. 29KOs /34 fights

    Julian Jackson 49 knockouts / 61 fights = 80% KO

    John Mugabi was up at about 78% = 39KOs /50 fights.

    Marvin Hagler had 78% = 52KOs /67 fights

    Stanley Ketchel had 75%= 64 fights 48 KOs.

    Rocky Graziano 77 fights /52 KOs= 62%

    Carlos Monzon 100 fights/ 59 KOs= 59%

    It doesn't tell the whole story such as skill or opposition, but it gives you an idea. There are also some middleweights that grew out of the division and wound up fighting as light-heavyweights like Archie Moore.
     
  3. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Golovkin has face nobody...He shouldnt be mentioned in a thread with someone like Monzon or Hagler....
     
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    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ketchels power is legendary..the guy could hit.
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Langford hit harder than any of them ... Fitz is up there too ... from your group for one handed power I might go w Rocky ...
     
  6. Surf-Bat

    Surf-Bat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler and Monzon were sharp, hard hitters. But they weren't power punchers.

    Ketchel, Fitzsimmons, Steele, Hostak, Langford, Lausse, Carter, Briscoe, Hart, Rankins, etc. Those were power punchers.
     
  7. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon.

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    Middleweights who stayed at Middleweight
    Eduardo Lausse 87/63KOs=72%
    Eugene Hart 41/28KOs=68%
    Florentino Fernandez 67/43KOs=64%
    Charles Kid McCoy 116/65=56%
    Bennie Briscoe 96/53KOs=55%
    Tony Zale 87/45=52%
    Charley Burley 98/50=51%
    Al Hostak 84/41KOs=49%
    Freddie Steele 142/60KOs=42%

    Middleweights who moved up to heavyweight
    Archie Moore 219/131KOs=60%
    Bob Fitzsimmons 99/59KOs=60%
    Sam Langford 317/128KOs=40%
    Mickey Walker 164/60=36%
     
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    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmmm, I thought this post was comparing just Graziano, Monzon, and Hagler? They say the rock threw his right hand like an axe.
     
  9. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Saw Rocky Graziano from a prelim fighter up to his ruination by Tony Zale. Graziano threw a right hand like he was throwing a hand grenade...He needed punching space to lob his grenades...A street fighter to the core !
     
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    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Monzon wasn't plagued with arthritis, progressively into his title reign, he would have impressed more with his power, which was still damned good. Maybe having to rely less on that once big right hand made him into the great fighter that he was. He was the greatest middleweight champ.
     
  11. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    Carter was that good of a puncher? Never knew that.
     
  12. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Graziano hit harder than both Hagler and Monzon.
     
  13. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Carter was a one punch ko artist.
     
  14. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    **** percentages...

    30 fights, 23 KOs looks great, 136 fights, 47 KOs don't look so good... however would the same man with 30 fights be able to maintain that with 5 Times as many fights over 15 - 20 years???


    Percentages (%) and CompuBox and such Stats are a load of _HIT!
     
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    Dick Tiger
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