Whitaker vs. Duran

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by salsanchezfan, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2004
    Messages:
    15,995
    Likes Received:
    11,870
    I don't normally do threads like this, but...........

    15 rounds. 135 pounds. Who do you like?
     
  2. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2006
    Messages:
    7,658
    Likes Received:
    78
    I take, and always have taken, Whitaker in this fight.

    He has the stuff-The more difficult style, the speed, the great jab, and he's the rare, rare find who was more defensively talented then Roberto.

    Provided he possessed the toughness and grit he showed at 147 down at 135, I see him taking the W. And he's probably the only 135 pounder I have that opinion of.
     
  3. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2005
    Messages:
    66,151
    Likes Received:
    53,559
    I take, and always have taken, Duran in this fight.

    He has the stuff- the more complete style, the speed, the great right hand, and he's the not so rare find who doesn't need to over-worry about defense with Pernell.

    Provided he trained properly, didn't party or lose weight too fast, I see him taking the W. And he's probaby the only 135 pounder I have that opinion of.
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2009
    Messages:
    24,600
    Likes Received:
    29,305
    I go with Pete.

    Duran had fits with less talented southpaws, and especially didn't look good with southpaws who could move.
     
  5. horst

    horst Guest

    Although I think Pea is pretty much the most complete and close-to-flawless fighter I've ever seen, stylistically I believe a peak Duran would defeat him more often than not. I see Duran cutting the ring off, closing the distance, and outfighting Whitaker on the inside. It'd be very competitive of course as Pea was a master inside fighter as well, but Duran's greater power and ferocity would see him in control. The best version of Duran at lightweight was so good at cutting the ring off and coming forward while slipping and throwing, I can't see Whitaker mastering him in that world, nor can I see Pea being able to keep him on the end of his jab and on the outside for long enough to gain control. To beat the lightweight Duran, I think you'd need to have murderous punching power to keep him from rampaging all over you. I doubt there has been a lightweight in history who has heavy enough artillery for that task.
     
  6. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2008
    Messages:
    34,796
    Likes Received:
    66
    Whitaker would win a rather easy decision. Whitaker is the type of fighter Duran had a tough time with and couldn't touch.
     
  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2009
    Messages:
    25,476
    Likes Received:
    9,364
    On his best ever night,I take Duran to pull out a narrow decision over Whitaker.
     
  8. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2005
    Messages:
    66,151
    Likes Received:
    53,559
    i think some folks really need to watch Duran 71-79. I also think they need to realize that Duran beat a better fighter in a prime Leonard than Whitaker ever beat, even if you consider his effort against a past-it Chavez a "victory".
     
  9. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    18,285
    Likes Received:
    411
    Ya ever hear of Ike Williams P.?
     
  10. bonzo7580

    bonzo7580 Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2011
    Messages:
    275
    Likes Received:
    3
    duran would have found a way to win by either late stoppage or narrowly on points .
     
  11. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2004
    Messages:
    15,995
    Likes Received:
    11,870
    Christ, let's not start that revisionist history "Chavez was past it against Whitaker" stuff. It's complete crap.
     
  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2004
    Messages:
    42,723
    Likes Received:
    279
    I've seen all I've needed to see of Duran failing against defensive fighters employing movement, angles and speed to be certain Whitaker would win. It wouldn't be easy but Duran can be neutralised, using movement to not let him get set, bossing him with the jab, stepping off and countering as he comes inside, potshots to keep him in place and rack up points.

    If you want to see how the fight would go watch Benitez-Duran
     
  13. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2009
    Messages:
    19,229
    Likes Received:
    259
    Yeah, I always state that Williams would out-Duran Duran. I think Whitaker would beat Williams though. And Duran beats Whitaker IMO. :D
     
  14. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2005
    Messages:
    58,747
    Likes Received:
    21,593
    What about against Frankie Randall ?
     
  15. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2004
    Messages:
    13,744
    Likes Received:
    100
    But make sure you steer clear of his fights against Ernesto Marcel, Ken Buchanan, Vilomar Fernandez and the rematch with Edwin Viruet. :good

    IMO, the best Duran wins. A fat and lazy Duran no, but a prime and ready Duran takes it. He's too vicious for Pea to handle and too intelligent not to find Pea's body and hinder his movement.