Who can beat Monzon?

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  1. bxrfan

    bxrfan Sizzle Full Member

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    I've rarely seen him lose a fight in fantasy match ups. Who can do the trick? :think
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    At middleweight, no one. He stayed in his ideal division, and can't be faulted for that.
     
  3. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Roy Jones ended up ahead of Monzon in my poll, I'll bump it shortly.
     
  4. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know anyone who would be a clear favorite over Monzon at MW. He was one of the best ever technicians at this weight; even someone as awesomely talented as Ray Robinson could have big problems with his style.
     
  5. essexboy

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    Very, very tough. The obvious would be Sugar Ray Robinson but I'm not sure he'd beat a prime Monzon at middleweight. Overall I see Monzon the bigger, more powerful guy and the superior middleweight beating Ray by a close decision and coming from behind to do so.

    The guy I have winning against him is Marvin Hagler. The other great middleweight. Again a very close fight but I feel Hagler's quicker and just takes it with a late stoppage. I cant see many other middleweights capable of stopping him though.
     
  6. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    A few guys would have good shots, like Robinson, Hagler, or Hopkins, but I wouldn't expect anyone at 160 to do it.
     
  7. BENNY BLANCO

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    Gerald McClellan on his best night has a chance due to his size,speed and power.
     
  8. WhataRock

    WhataRock Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont think so to be honest.

    Usual suspects could do it but I wouldnt pick them.

    Hagler, Robinson or Hopkins.

    I do still think Roy stylistically could spell big trouble for him..and if you were to extrapolate a bit of his supermiddle form it wouldnt be such a crazy pick.
    Basing it purely on his 160 form however its a big stretch.
     
  9. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Offhand, Hagler, Robinson, and Jones Jr. are three who come to mind.
     
  10. Sweet Pea

    Sweet Pea Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    McClellan would be outclassed. He was far too lacking skill-wise despite his power, which probably wasn't much better (if any better) than Valdez's anyway.

    As to the question, he could be beaten (it's not like he was head and shoulders above everyone he ever fought in the first place), but I don't think I'd favor any MW to beat him on his best night. I think a few could've perhaps beaten the version of his later years, but at his peak circa the Benvenuti and first Griffith fights, I wouldn't say so. Not over 15 rounds, and definitely not in a series.
     
  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hagler and Jones but not Hopkins. Never Hopkins. Hopkins is not part of the elite class

    Monzon would win comfortably on points
     
  12. cotto20

    cotto20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think harry greb would have a good chance of out working monzon
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I would confidently pick Jones, Hopkins, Hagler and Robinson over her at MW with confidence. I would also give good chances to Greb, Nunn, GMAN, Toney, McCallum, Leonard and these fights are 50-50s.

    MW version of Charles/Moore/Burley/Marshall/Holman Williams would be big threats but we just dont have the film of them.

    Then there are dark horses like Dick Tiger, Kalambay, Herol Graham, Hearns, Nigel Benn, Eubank, Fullmer, Lamotta who I wouldnt pick but wouldn't be too suprised to pull off the upset, actually if he fought all of that bunch does anyone not see 1 or 2 upsetting him?

    MW is a very deep division and Monzons style has exploitable weaknesses
     
  14. Flea Man

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    I'd say Hagler, but wouldn't feel overly confident. Wouldn't feel confident picking Monzon over Marv either. Close as it comes, fantasy wise.
     
  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    George Foreman could probably do it in his prime.

    Ali too.