Who hit hardest???

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vincent Gottschalk, Jul 7, 2007.

  1. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Dude, you still didn't vote for Louis yet..................

    Oops, my bad.
     
  2. GABBY

    GABBY Active Member Full Member

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    defo agree with shavers:thumbsup
     
  3. nulty

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    Spot on, you only have to shake the mans hand to get an idea of his power.
     
  4. nulty

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    I'll ask you what I ask everyone on this issue. Who should rocky have fought instead of the guys he did?
     
  5. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We are not referring to power based on the relative size of the fighter. Lewis hit nearly as hard as Foreman. His size doesn't somehow diminish this.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's not about that. I am not going to complain about the guys that Marciano fought, because he fought the best guys he could. That doesn't mean that when we start comparing accomplishments and ranking HW's that the weakness of his era will not be used against him. It's done against every fighter.
     
  7. Ethan Trims

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    Every fighter is overrated or underrated by someone.

    Marciano being a 180 5'9 fighter, knocked out plenty of big men, hence his possibility at being the hardest P4P puncher.

    Thats your opinion that he would of gotten destroyed and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. He retired at the peak of his career. Dont be a fukin moron.
     
  8. nulty

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    Patterson was a green kid and Liston was in jail when marciano retired. Rocky would have had to hang around and likely fight guys he already beat for medicore money. Saying Marciano ducked Patterson is like saying Lewis ducked one of the current prospects.
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has never been recognized as the hardest p4p puncher. Even by the criteria you just mention....Fitzsimmons was a MW who KO'd HW's. That would make him a harder puncher.
     
  10. Rollo

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    Quick Tillis said that Tyson hit harder than Acorn - and he should know.
     
  11. El Bombasto

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    I went with Big George, because I have seen most of his fights, but I could have gone with Baer as well
     
  12. jonesjrp4p1

    jonesjrp4p1 16 yr old prodigy Full Member

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    tyson
    liston
    foreman
     
  13. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Um, that record hasn't been beaten by a heavyweight in over 50 years since it was set. What does that say about it?
    Valuev almost "beat" the record by building it up against sub-top-100 opposition for almost his entire first 40 fights, getting a pair of questionable decisions against a couple of old, mediocre opponents to grab a phony belt, then fighting utterly hand-picked opposition, and he still couldn't make it. Even if he had reached 49-0, it wouldn't have been legitimate because he wasn't champion. Larry Holmes was the closest to legitimately breaking Marciano's record, and Holmes was an all-time great.

    The people disparaging Marciano and laughing at his being ranked the hardest hitter pound-for-pound aren't really being reasonable. However, I think that, in terms of straight one-to-one punching power, Foreman and possibly a couple other guys on the list are ahead of him.
     
  14. brooklyn1550

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    "Big" George Foreman
     
  15. Johnnyblaze

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    For me it's a tie between Tyson and Big George. But Marciano hit the hardest for his weight. He's a close 3rd, but he weighed like 190lbs!!