Why Zaire?

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  1. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    Propaganda or actual strategy?
     
  2. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ... because Don King convinced Mubutu to front money that King didn't have to pay Ali and Foreman?
     
  3. kolcade4

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    Was looking for a subjective rather than objective statement , no offense brother.
     
  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    olso bikoz 3rd world kantris ujuali elaw korapshen iziyer den "western" kantris .
    komishens , inspekshens , investigeishens , etc r far iziyer muted (shut off) der .
     
  5. kolcade4

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    What a great point
     
  6. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The most money was offered. Strategy was never a part of it. Of course.
     
  7. kolcade4

    kolcade4 Keep Punchin' Full Member

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    Yeah that makes sense, why would Ali want to utilize the humidity and his status among the Africans to his advantage anyway. There wouldn't be any reason for an American venue to show more love to George rather than Ali at all. I'm just sayin ...
     
  8. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Do you really think Ali had any choice in these negotiations? All these details are left to the promoters and managers to decide and it's money driven. ArE you still looking for conspiracies nearly 40 years after the fact? Ali koed George for the 10 count....that's it.
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Actually I do not think that Ali was de brain behind his fraud career .
    When he was told 2 take testosterone injections , he took down his underwear and took it like a man , when he was instructed on how 2 "rope a dope" he followed it perfectly .

    Ali was a doll used by criminals 2 fullfill their goals .
    True , he might have had his own wills some times , but he just followed Mirena's instructions .

    When Ali tells a lie it is , most of times b/c he believes it ,
    when Mirena lied or pretended , it woz 100% intended and carefully planned .
     
  10. Cmoyle

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    If anyone would like to learn how this fight in Zaire between Ali and Foreman came about I highly recommend the following new book. I just finished reading it and thought it a terrific read:

    http://www.cornersofthering.com/
     
  11. Azzer85

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    Another disguised Ali bashing thread i see

    The wanderer pretty much answered the question

    close thread
     
  12. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    olso bikoz 3rd world kantris ujuali elaw korapshen iziyer den "western" kantris .
    komishens , inspekshens , investigeishens , etc r far iziyer muted (shut off) der .
     
  13. HOUDINI

    HOUDINI Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Frankenstein.....you have no idea what your talking about.
     
  14. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    facking Stivi G chex if i left de pleis , sori 2 disapoint stivi , bat i m stil hir 2 taip 4 trus' seik
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    LMAO at the implication that Muhammad Ali even knew what the f**k Zaire was anyway.

    Mobutu offered the money, that's how the fight ended up in Zaire.

    Really quite a disgraceful episode in boxing, and in African-American history, considering what Mobutu was doing to his people.
    To this day, the superficial symbolism of the event over-shadows the reality, and that's sad.