You are probably an idiot to get into knife fights, but I'm starting to believe you less and less anyways. Besides, you are simply wrong. If there were stabbings happening all the time at local high schools the same way there are fist fights happening all the time at high schools it would be reported on in the news. Also, if you are confronted by someone with a knife and you use any MA for self defense before trying to defuse the situation without violence you are a class A moron. If you were simply attacked outright by a kid with a knife and he missed you than you're just lucky.
You are talking about two different things one is talking about combat situations in foreign combat zone, the other being bar fights. Totally different scenarios.
uhh, MMA doesn't purely consist of grappling you know, that's only 50% of it. and I don't think anyone really believes that MMA is a complete representation of a real street fight with knives involved.
The lad mentions living in or being in Peckham London in another post. He is right about the knife carrying and stabbings taking place. Its regularly reported in the press here, check the London Evening Standard for reports or the South London Press. I believe the current figures for reported stabbings are about 2 per day. There is a big drive to try and deal with this problem with some of our kids. I lived with my ex girlfriend in Walworth close to Peckham and now live in South Bermondsey. One of the worst incidents was when two 11 year olds where stabbed by a 15 year old. Many young kids round here carry knives for protection. Guns are used regularly. Punishment stabbings and shootings for believed 'lack of respect' happen from time to time and have a devastating effect on families and the community.
atsch Dude spare me your life stories. I'm not your therapist. Who's this us you're talking about? I've been around similar ****, that's why I don't mind living in America now. You aint that bright if you trying to take someone down while fighting against multiple of opponents same way you arn't that smart to fight someone with a knife with your boxing. This **** is common sense and you don't have to preach that **** to me or anyone else. Anyone with a half brain realizes this. I feel for your situation. Sorry you have to go though that. That said, stop taking "real fight" so close to heart. You're simply misinterpreting what is meant by it. Common sense: for the purposes of comparing two MARTIAL ARTS that use NO WEAPONS "real fight" means use of least rules. If I say a "real fight" to someone who lives in South Africa he'd be laughing at your little knify-knify fights that you're bitching about while he's walking around with an AK47 on his shoulder and a jackal on a leash, not to mention being a 14 y.o boy.
If there was the access to the weaponary you could repeat that anywhere in the world. A stab wound in the right place will kill you as much as a bullet from a gun. Fighting for sport as you say is different from real (street) fighting. Best to learn to run and get the **** away as fast as you can.
Its funny how you came up with all your assumption which make you more of an idiot. Im not here to impress you with my real life experience, I believe in take or leave it basis and I aint feeding you bull****. Just in case you want to know the answer, well you partly answered it yourself > I dont even understand why theres alot of hate in this forum. People talk like the knew everything and anything :-(
Im glad you knew what I was talking about. I actually used to go to peckham manor school which then became warwick park school. I seen alot of crazy **** in that school. One of my class mate was slashed on his leg while fighting with another kid (14-15yo if I remember well). This was right outside the school. Kids will have duel where they fight with knives and slash each other, lucky I managed to avoid all that ****. I was no angel either, I stabbed a guy with a pencil in the back and broke it. This was years ago and maybe things have changed in that school now. But I do know there was shooting a year ago in new cross where a polish girl was shot dead. This is around the corner from my flat. Another incident where a passerby died by newcross road. Most where drug dealers of some sort killing rivals. This is the problem with some people in the forum, just because they talk BS, they assume everyone is like them.
Well the access isn't the same, and situations are different and that's the point. It has to be understood that you can't take things out of context. What a real fight for me is not real for him and is not real for someone from like South African(or w/e u want). I don't want to stab or shoot anyone. If I do I know I will be punished for my crime either legally or simply living with having killed someone. On the other hand if I have to fight for my or someone elses safety I'd rather know MMA than any single combat art.
Dude, you sound very defensive, I dont even know why, I aint even attacking you. atsch I seriouly doubt you seen alot of **** out there, because if you have, you will understand what Im on about like the other guy.
You're the one who can't stop spilling your life story to us. This conversation deviated from you saying that your goal is to finish the fight standing up wether opponent's buddies are around or not. I'm saying it's total bull****. Then you start singing your it's-a-hard-knock-life tune to us and that we don't know ****. Well you have to stop assuming that you have it the hardest and you act as if you do. There are plenty of people around the world who have it harder and I'm sure people around these forums have been through what you've been through or worse. Stop feeding us this(yes you do) hard-knock-life **** to prove your point by us realizing how hard your life is. These are 2 different subjects. If you wanna talk about knifes we'll talk about knifes, stop deviating the subject to suit you. The fight will go where it goes and you have to know your **** around every situation and hopefully know how to control where the situation goes. The ground gives you less options if you don't wtf you're doing on the ground, that's why it's important to know that aspect and when you're facing a single person and you know your way around the ground you are the authority because most people don't know what to do there. While standing up everyone has a punchers chance.
LOL :rofl Its that all you want to say? no one is stopping you from doing MMA. You will find its pretty common for any serious martial artist to cross train. I dont think you will find any MMA class who does weapon defense such as knife work, they are pretty much clue less when handling shitty situation. :hi:
Funniest **** I ever seen in the forum, so Mr MMA, tell me what exactly would you do if you were confronted on the street? Before you tell me you gonna roll him on the floor, let me remind you that the ground is not soft, you could be hitting solid concrete. Dont forget that rolling on the road could get you run over. Oh the dog **** too.
Listen I'm not gona tell about what I've seen and what I haven't seen. Me saying what I have should not make a difference for this conversation. Instead of judging people by what they've seen have a normal conversation outside the box. Again sorry you live in a rough town. I'm sure it sucks and I'm sure it's your reality, but the fact is that is not part of the subject that we're discussing.