Woodcutting help Boxing?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by mikedokes, Nov 29, 2013.

  1. mikedokes

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    I read that boxers like Earnie Shavers and George Foreman did woodcutting as part of their routine, which built their power.

    Would it be worth trying for boxing?
     
  2. Woodcutting is good exercise. Though not boxing specific of course.

    Shavers & Foreman were both heavyweights so heavy muscle building work was very useful to them.

    However, if you are not a heavyweight and therefore have to make weight for your division lots of heavy work like woodcutting is going to be less beneficial to you than it was for Shavers & Foreman.
     
  3. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What? :huh
     
  4. However, if you are not a heavyweight and therefore have to make weight for your division lots of heavy work like woodcutting is going to be less beneficial to you than it was for Shavers & Foreman.
     
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    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay. I'll put it another way. Can you explain what you mean, as what you said makes no sense.
     
  6. The muscle bulk that woodchopping and lifting heavy weights can provide is more useful to heavyweights because they don't have to make weight on the scales and are usually reliant mostly on power.

    Lesser weight fighters, particularly those in the lower weight divisions, most often rely on hand speed and aerobic capacity, and pronounced muscle bulk doesn't assist them with that.
     
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    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lifting weights and chopping wood would not build muscle without a calorie surplus.

    Anyway, it's not like building muscle is easy. Somebody with decent genetics and training specifically for muscle would probable build maybe 1.5lbs of muscle a month. It's a very slow process.

    All boxers should be moving heavy weights.
     
  8. Many trainers vary to that opinion and actively discourage lower division fighters from lifting heavy weights. Weights with many repetitions yes. Heavy weights with less repetitions no.
     
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    That is because they have absolutely no idea whatsoever when it comes to weight training.

    They are boxing coaches, they should stick to what they know and not give their uneducated opinions on things they're utterly clueless about.

    If a boxer is utilizing weight training in his or her training, the aim should be to increase power. The high rep fluff boxing trainer's advocate is bull****.
     
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    Not this ****ing **** again.
    Do you people understand that lifting weights doesnt mean body building?!:-(

    I have trained boxing for many years and most of the boxing coaches are morons that cant explain how to do a proper squat let alone educate someone on proper functional weight lifting.

    Long distance running and high rep low weight shtick is getting tiresome.

    Welcome to 2013.
     
  11. What I stated above is based on what I've seen and been instructed in boxing gyms run by experienced boxing coaches who have succeeded in helping boxers win titles.

    Clearly you two think boxers should be trained by weight trainers not boxing trainers :lol:
     
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    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those two are correct. how should you incorporate functional strength training, is a different matter. Your body responds to touch and feel, its finding the formula for it, in movement to correspond with what you are trying to achieve.
     
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    We are not talking here about boxing technique , you are the one who said that "The muscle bulk that woodchopping and lifting heavy weights can provide is more useful to heavyweights because they don't have to make weight on the scales and are usually reliant mostly on power" which is utterly stupid and has labeled you as someone who knows jack ****ing **** about proper way to lift weights for boxing.
    I have been trained by boxing coaches(one of them is a head coach for a WSB team) who did know how to teach boxing and i learn a lot from them and they were really great about that but they didnt even have basic knowledge on strength and conditioning or nutrition.
     
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    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And? This has nothing to do with the subject we're discussing. You're basically saying because a boxing coach has helped boxers win titles, he's correct in EVERYTHING he says...

    Clearly you did not comprehend what you were told. :patsch
     
  15. Visit some gyms boys. Speak to some experienced and successful trainers. Come back and tell us what they told you.