Fury: "Anthony Joshua, step aside! I want USYK now".

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Boxing2019, Nov 25, 2021.



How much money would Bodybuilder ask to step aside?

  1. Less than 5,000,000 $

    5 vote(s)
    11.9%
  2. between 5,000,000 and 10,000,000 $

    10 vote(s)
    23.8%
  3. more than 10,000,000 $

    27 vote(s)
    64.3%
  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,247
    11,503
    Jan 13, 2021
    It's no 100% guarantee, because Joshua cut Usyks face up in the first fight so it's not outside the relm of possibility that an agressive Joshua carves Usyk up even more and wins by cut stoppage TKO

    Besides that scenario ? He's not winning this fight. Joshua isn't good enough
     
    catchwtboxing and Aydamn like this.
  2. Aydamn

    Aydamn Dillian Da Dissappointment Full Member

    9,749
    6,924
    Jul 31, 2018
    Fair comment, Usyk is amazing And he is well above Joshua in boxing skill.
     
    OldSchoolBoxing likes this.
  3. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

    6,359
    4,947
    Jul 22, 2019
    The cut on USyK's face you are referring was a small thing It was more or less like that one suffered by Ruiz in the second fight in Arabia. However with a cut on the face you can do even 12 rounds like did Fury with Wallin or Ruiz with Joshua. With an eye socket broken instead you can fight maximum for 3 or 4 rounds and Joshua was lucky that USyK broke his face around the 9th.
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2021
    catchwtboxing and MarkusFlorez99 like this.
  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,247
    11,503
    Jan 13, 2021
    That only further proves that Joshua has no chance in the rematch. He's holding up undisputed. If he steps aside thats a free few million and he can get a crack at the winner. Who wouldn't take that
     
    catchwtboxing, vast and Boxing2019 like this.
  5. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

    6,359
    4,947
    Jul 22, 2019
    Exactly.
     
    MarkusFlorez99 likes this.
  6. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,840
    6,256
    Nov 22, 2014
    This. Joshua is guaranteed a titleshot and millions of dollars against Usyk in the rematch, so gambling on Fury keeping his word given his track record isn’t going to happen.
     
    Aydamn and Finkel like this.
  7. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,247
    11,503
    Jan 13, 2021
    He's also guaranteed another loss on his record fighting Usyk again, this time by stoppage. Realistically speaking stepping aside and fighting a tune up or two to gain back some confidence is whats best for Joshua. And then he can get a crack at the winner.

    He's holding up undisputed with this rematch anyway
     
  8. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    24,901
    18,337
    Nov 27, 2010
    Good for Fury to announce what everyone wants to see next; Fury vs Usyk for all the marbles, and AJ can get the winner. That is a solid plan and Joshua should take it.

    Give the fans what they want, whats best for the sport.
     
  9. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. Full Member

    6,359
    4,947
    Jul 22, 2019
    All this mess for revenge, fame and money could incredibly favor USyK who on the sly and in a short time could beat the two braggart before retiring as ATG and one of the best 5 HWs ever (and maybe as the best P4P ever) and enjoying the money made with the skyrocketing of his futuristic clothing line that is already going very well.
     
    Last edited: Nov 25, 2021
  10. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    20,642
    24,802
    Jul 4, 2014
    It is astonishing how quickly and completely Usyk supplanted Joshua in the imaginations of the fans.
     
  11. Finkel

    Finkel Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,999
    3,322
    Feb 10, 2020
    This obviously is not going to happen.
    Wilder was asking for what? $20m? So that would be just the starting point for Joshua.

    Joshua gets to fight Usyk next. He is going to make a shed load of money win, lose or draw. His biggest payday so far was the Ruiz Jr. rematch ($60m). And even if he loses, Fury would want to fight him down the line, because Joshua is the money man in the division, and that fight would make money.

    So the question is, how much are they willing to pay Joshua to walk away from a gargantuan payday against Usyk? The answer is: they can't afford it.
     
    Special one likes this.
  12. Jackomano

    Jackomano Boxing Junkie Full Member

    7,840
    6,256
    Nov 22, 2014
    Joshua isn’t holding up anything considering Usyk agreed to the rematch clause when he signed to fight Joshua.

    Also, Usyk beating Joshua in a rematch isn’t guaranteed. Joshua has the tools to beat Usyk and regain his titles, so it’s premature to assume Usyk automatically wins.

    Fury also has a history of weaseling out of contracts. Hypothetically speaking even if Joshua was entertaining the idea of stepping aside I don’t see Joshua or Hearn being crazy enough to trust Fury or willingly put Joshua’s career in limbo.

    This is the same Fury that didn’t honor his rematch clause with Wlad and also unsuccessfully tried weaseling out of the rematch clause with Wilder.
     
    CleneloAnavarez likes this.
  13. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,746
    1,391
    Nov 18, 2021
    Joshua didn't have that many fans on this board, especially after the loss to Ruiz. Usyk's chances were mocked although he had his faithful supporters. If by chance Usyk loses the rematch he will be deemed a tomato can (like Kovalev).
    @Toney F*** U has great faith in Joshua, more than even Hearn does.
     
    catchwtboxing likes this.
  14. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ Full Member

    91,176
    25,466
    Jan 18, 2010
    Of course Joshi isn't stepping aside, that would be totally bonkers (to use a Bri'ish expression).
    He's going to earn a lot of money on the rematch, win or lose, plus the chance to win his titles back and partially restore his brand for even bigger paydays. How much step-aside money would it take? Probably a hell of a lot more as Arum/Fury would want to put up, or even earn back.
    Also, history has shown that stepping aside hardly ever favors the guy doing the side-stepping in the bigger fights, and I'm pretty sure both camps are aware of that.
     
    Jackomano likes this.
  15. miniq

    miniq Tyson Fury Undisputed HW Champion 18/5/24 banned Full Member

    45,218
    23,860
    Oct 23, 2011
    That's my baby boy

    Let Fury deal with Usyk

    Then AJ can fight Fury after