They both have huge egos. Nobody wanted to back down. But personally, I don’t see why Floyd couldn’t have pushed for the fight when Manny went back and had agreed to the 14 days that Floyd had previously offered him. Manny had publicly conceded at that point, so it would have been a psychological win for Floyd. But like a child, he said that the offer was no longer on the table. Now you don’t behave like that when that was supposedly the one major obstacle which was blocking a $400m mega fight. The final straw for me, was in 2012, when Manny publicly agreed to all testing. Not the 14 day cut off what Floyd had previously offered, but random OSDT all the way up to the day of the fight, which Floyd had requested right from the outset. Manny publicly offered that. Yet Leonard Ellerbe didn’t even make any enquiries about it. He didn’t even try to set up any negotiations. This was 3 years after Floyd had continuously said that it was the testing which was preventing the fight from taking place. It was at that point that I knew that it was never the testing that had prevented an earlier fight. It was Floyd who wasn’t fully confident. Personally, I think that Floyd would have beaten any version of Manny with his great speed and his huge reach. But as we’ve seen throughout the years, as great as Floyd was, he had a mental weakness.
Then clearly took PEDS himself. You couldn’t make it up. It’s okay though. Because he wasn’t really guilty. Bob Bennett said so. Ha!
Exactly. This is what we’re dealing with here. Apparently, Manny was guilty of taking PEDS, despite the fact that there was zero evidence of any wrongdoing. Yet when Floyd was caught with an illegal IV and a BS, illogical excuse, everything was fine. They’ll also gladly tell you that Floyd had an injured shoulder against Castillo. They’ll even upload a link to where it was mentioned in an article from years ago. Yet if you post an actual quote from the surgeon who operated on Manny’s shoulder, they’ll shoot it down and label it as all being complete BS.
Agreed, he was looking for a mental advantage in dictating terms because I do not think he wanted to deal with that Manny work rate and firepower at the time ... Neck will defend him to the end , but you are sort of he way with RJJ , although its different ... which is fine .. May and RJJ are so much a like that they both had the opportunity to test themselves more but didnt .. We have discussed it before ,, If they did and both were very successful then they are in locked in on any top 20 p4p list ... It is the only reason they are both outside of it
He wanted a cut off due to the Morales incident. Whether you agree with that or not, the Morales incident was documented 4 years before any negotiations, in a landscape where testing of that nature wasn’t prevalent. You guys always imply that Manny simply refused testing, which was incredibly suspicious, which raised huge red flags. But you never apply context. Manny never refused a drug test. He never once refused to be tested. He just didn’t want OSDT up to the day of the fight. And yes, by today’s standards, it looks odd. But again, not when you apply context and allow for the fact that the sport was very different back then and that he had a valid reason for his request. Also, he was willing to do an immediate after fight blood and urine test. You also never acknowledge the fact that Manny agreed to Floyd’s cut off demand, before then agreeing to ALL of Floyd’s testing demands. Yet even when he did that, the fight still took a further 3 years to happen. Out of 5 years of back and forth negotiations, you only ever focus on the first 12 months to suit your agenda. Of all the information that we have available, the only thing which is clear, is that it was Floyd who was guilty of taking PEDS.
LOL - What is it with you and retorting with a reference to "feelings"? Oh... ...that's right... ...because you can't think of Mayweather in any other terms - just that, in your case, it's more like undying love.
Floyd wanted a retroactive TUE clause to be put into the contract before he even signed off on the fight. If that doesn’t scream out at you, then I’m at a complete loss. An IV of that magnitude is banned as it’s a known masking agent. Manny’s shoulder was operated on just 5 days after the fight.
Nobody puts a retroactive TUE clause into a fight contract before signing off on a fight. Nobody. Why would a guy who walked around just above his fight weight and who never had any issues regarding his weight his whole career, have been concerned about potentially being dehydrated 3 months in the future? That’s not someone taking a precaution. That’s someone trying to cover themselves. The IV that Floyd had administered should have been officially classed as a medical emergency, where if the correct procedure had been adhered to, would have resulted in admittance to a hospital. He wasn’t severely dehydrated. And if he had’ve been, he’d have taken fluids orally which has been medically proven to be more beneficial in that kind of situation. We know what happened. Wait a minute. I’ll use one of your sign offs: Deal with it!
Frankly why do you care about the IV? Floyd's legacy doesn't revolve around the Pacquiao fight. Are irregularities surrounding the fight relevant in the scheme of things? Floyd was past his best anyway.
