Trevor Berbick v Michael Dokes

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  1. Eye of Timaeus

    Eye of Timaeus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm going with Dokes on points. Thoughts?
     
  2. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Berbick on points. He's much stronger and I doubt Mike will be able to move and box and keep him off consistently.
     
  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Berbick could be awkward and make the other guy struggle, this imo is what would happen here. He'd stop Dokes from being effective and get a points win.Don't see either man really being in trouble from the other, I don't think either had a killer punch.
     
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  4. lloydturnip

    lloydturnip Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Berbick was just a big strong bloke who was a nutter. Dokes should win due to his speed as long as he doesn't run out of puff .
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Good fight. Hard to pick a winner. Leaning towards Berbick
     
  6. The Slaps

    The Slaps Win or lose, as long as you get the decision Full Member

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    Dokes takes the early rounds and Berbick takes over to get a points win. Both very inconsistent fighters could go disastrous for either but prime vs prime Berbick
     
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  7. Mike Gould

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    Surprisingly hard fight to pick. Berbick's aggressive, mauling, physical style was kryptonite to boxer types like Greg Page, John Tate and Pinklon Thomas. Dokes was quicker and threw some eye catching combinations. Young Dokes by decision. Berbick was a late bloomer so I would take him by decision anytime after 1985. RIP to both big men.
     
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  8. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dokes on points. It would have been a very forgettable fight.
     
  9. joebeadg

    joebeadg Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Berbick would get to Dokes finally and ko him
     
  10. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dokes by Unanimous decision. Interesting because Michael beat Trevor as an amateur.
     
  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think this, but I personally believe Michael would get stopped in 12.
     
  12. Mike Gould

    Mike Gould Member Full Member

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    Three rounds with headgear versus 10-12 without. I like Trevor's chances in the pro ranks. He really wore down boxer types and sometimes ran them out the ring (John Tate). Seriously though ], the list of big name heavys he beat was impressive:

    John Tate
    Muhummad Ali (shouldn't count)
    Greg Page
    David Bey
    Mitch Green
    Pinklon Thomas
    Jeff Sims

    How does Dokes' list of scalps compare to these guys? Except for Ali, most were close to prime when they were beaten by Berbick. Berbick is a little underrated.
     
  13. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was the first to take prime Holmes the 15 round distance since Norton. Perhaps his most impressive accomplishment.

    His beating Page and Thomas was a big deal at the time, as those two fighters were becoming quite highly regarded (and some even suspected they were ducked by Holmes). After Berbick beat them most boxing fans kind of lost enthusiasm (and few continued thinking Holmes was ducking them).
     
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  14. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Trevor could definitely outfight you if you didn't have the right equipment. But Dokes was extremely tough, and he had more than enough to deal with Trevor as a pro. But it would be a fight! As far as his list of scalps, probably better than Thomas, Green, Bey, and Sims, though not as good as Tate and Page and of course, Ali.
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    You have your timelines completely and utterly wrong. Nobody on the planet thought Holmes was ducking Page at the time of the Berbick fight. Page beat Snipes on the undercard of Holmes - Witherspoon in an eliminator to face Holmes next. Page won. Holmes reneged on fighting Page for whatever reason and was stripped. This is factual.

    Holmes was also never going to fight Thomas. In the middle of Thomas' good streak with people calling for a bout Holmes said he would never face that drug addict or something to that affect. After the Witherspoon scare Holmes unfortunately shut up shop (and said he was going to) and handpicked for the rest of his reign.

    W.B.C. Says Holmes Must Fight Greg Page

    The World Boxing Council president, Jose Sulaiman, said today he will revoke the heavyweight champion Larry Holmes's title unless Holmes agrees to defend it in a bout with Greg Page.

    Earlier in the week, Holmes reached an agreement to fight Marvis Frazier, son of the former heavyweight champion Joe Frazier.

    Holmes would earn $3.1 million and Frazier $1 million.

    The W.B.C. ranks Page as the No.1 contender and therefore a mandatory opponent for its champion. Sulaiman said: ''Our rules establish that the champion who defies them will be stripped of his title, and this might happen to Holmes if he continues refusing the obligatory match.''

    Sulaiman said the promoter Don King has a contract signed by the champion on March 3 that is registered with the W.B.C., and said its terms therefore must be respected.