Haye (213 lbs) Clearly Will Be Using the "Valuev Gameplan Part II"

You guys know **** all about Haye.

Haye will knock Wlad out in 5 rounds.

 

IMO tactically Haye doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell. Haye can't fight Wlad inside and he can't fight him outside. He can't beat him standing or on the run.

I think his best hope is to make Wlad mad. If Haye can make Wlad hate him, maybe with something he says or does in the ring, he might have a chance.

 

Please can you tell me at what point in round 2 Haye broke his hand?

 

Shame Haye is going to run and ruin a big fight. I can hear it now from the Brits on here after all the talk of Haye KOing Klitschko:

"Did you expect Haye to go toe to toe with such a big man"

"Haye was just trying to box off the back foot he is a masterful Boxer"

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

If Haye runs he is losing 120-108 Wlad is no Valuev he can't be outboxed.

 

People seem to forget Haye broke his hand early in the Valuev fight which effected his strategy against him. He will not go in like Tyson either though, he simply isn't that type of fighter. He will adopt similar style to the Valuev fight but this time he will have both hands so will be more aggressive and busier.

There will be periods of cagey boxing interspersed with moments of explosive speed and power, at least that's what Haye hopes. I personally can't see how he will cope with Wlad, he will need some luck to pull off an upset.

 

He will run and you will look like a fool ....very soon. Wlad Ko's Haye within 6

 

It's a horrible idea given Wladimir's superior footwork. If he stays outside he's setting himself up for that hammer jab all night, he just doesn't have the footwork or balance to avoid a guy as good as Wladimir. He only ever had a puncher's chance imo, the longer the fight goes on, the smaller that chance becomes.

 

Funny ****, read what you posted there:deal

 

Wlad to me, is only in danger is he allows himself to get cornered on the ropes. He's a master in the last seven years of not letting this happen. He uses that jab to control the ring, his ring generalship is master class. I can't see how Haye will be able to back him up to get those chances. If Wlad has space to escape, he's very good at it. This just doesn't seem likely for Haye. The weight he came at seems to imply he will try and stick and move and outbox Wlad, which is an uphill battle as well getting inside that jab.

 

kind of like paq/mosely where a "please dont ko me and let me finish the fight and i promise not to hit you" scenario unfolds.

could have happened before as most all of wk's fights have recently went this way but because of haye's mouth i believe wk really wants to hurt this guy if given the opportunity.

both paq and pbf didn't want to ko mosely. i think both could have if that were their agenda, which it was not.

 

The weight tells me Haye trained for speed. So he is either going to run or try to jump on Wlad and pummel him with wild fast shots. No big deal. What I don't understand is why Haye or Booth think Wlad didn't train for speed? My point is a leopard can't change his spots. Haye will fight the way he has always fought. And the lower the weight, the more you can expect a cruiser weight type of performance from him. If he thinks Wlad is Mormeck, Macarinelli or Fragomeni, he is sadly mistaken. This is Wladimir Klitschko he is fighting. THE Ring Magazine Heavyweight Champion of the World. If Haye thinks his shots are going to bring down the Heavyweight Champion like they did cruiserweights, he is sadly mistaken. Wlad by KO in round 1.

 

War Haye!!!! Either guy can take the other one out. Wlad is the favourite but if Haye cracks that chin there will be no way back for him!!!!

 

Heard that before the Peter I fight, the Brock fight, the Austin fight, the Thompson fight, the Rahmann fight, the Chagaev fight, the Ibragimov fight, the Brewster II fight, the Byrd fight, the Chambers fight, the Peter II fight....