Bored of Haye's excuses -his tactics were terrible, beaten by better fighter.

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  1. horst

    horst Guest

    If Haye had a broken toe, he should've delayed the fight. If he chose not to, that's his fault.

    Thinking he could outbox Wladimir Klitschko the way he outboxed Nikolay Valuev was stupid, plain and simple.

    Wladimir is so much faster, busier, and all-round better than the 7ft joke.

    Haye should've bullrushed Wlad with good head movement, power shots, and Tyson-like intensity. At least then if he'd have gone down, he'd have gone down in a blaze of glory instead of a really, really **** performance in a dreadful and disappointing damp squib of a fight.

    No-one has ever or probably will ever outbox and outpoint Wladimir, but we have seen more than once that he can be got to, roughed up, and stopped. Haye and Adam Booth ****ed up. Big time.

    Anyway, Wladimir is now the undisputed best heavyweight in the world IMO, the best since Lewis (p4p at least, I still think the Vitali of the early 2000s would've smashed him), and a top pound-for-pound guy along with Pacquiao, Mayweather and Martinez. Though with Vitali fighting Adamek, Wlad may as well retire now. There is NO-ONE left credible for him to fight, Povetkin is scared of him and he's beaten everyone else. I think he should do what Lennox Lewis did and retire on top. He's a great now.

    Haye will probably retire in October without fighting again. With a Klitschko monopoly of the titles at heavyweight and David probably not able to even make cruiser anymore, there really doesn't seem to be anything out there for him. A sorry end to a good career.


    Congrats to Wladimir, the opposite to Haye and Booth for their stupid fight plan. :deal
     
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  2. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haye refused to make this a war. Instead he focused on not getting knocked out in the later rounds. He talked a lot but couldn't deliver and eventually just wanted to survive and collect his paycheck.

    Good riddance, enjoy your retirement, David.
     
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  3. T.S.

    T.S. T.Stout Full Member

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    Haye is tasting the agony of da feet!
     
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  4. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye will be remembered as a Klit leftover now.

    All that talk...and all we got was "close eyes and swing for the fences" occasionally -- which actually made him look really stupid. He was all over the shop. I won't even begin to mention his and Adam Booth's desperate calls for point deductions when he [that drunkard Haye] was blobbing everyhwere.

    All in all, Wlad did his thing...Haye on the other hand...well, he's been exposed. Big time.
     
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  5. blaghaus

    blaghaus New Member Full Member

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    Haye was dog****, but I'm not having it that Wlad is a great. What a travesty of a fight that was. Hateful stuff.
     
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  6. Clayton Bigsby

    Clayton Bigsby Active Member Full Member

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    To be fair, I was one of those who thought Haye would be best advised to adopt the same cautious strategy he did in the Valuev fight. In doing so, he at least managed to last the 12 rounds. I feel that if he'd gone for a more agressve strategy, he would have gassed out sooner and thus more vulnerable to a knockout late on.

    Today's fight showed me that Wladimir really is as great as they say he is. Tonight he was supposedly facing the quickest and most dangerous opponent in years, yet he made it look like a sparring session. So massive credit to him.

    Haye, on the other hand, failed to deliver on his tough talk, and looked hopeless and one dimensional. All he was banking on was an overhand right. That's all he had. No uppercuts. Not left hands. No jab. No combos. Just a big right that he had half success with. But I guess the one fortunate thing he can fall back on, is that he never got knocked out.

    Oh, and his broken toe excuse was lame.
     
    Clayton Bigsby, Jul 2, 2011
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  7. horst

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    I really don't view this as a sort of silver lining, the way you do.

    For me there is more honour in trying to win the fight and going out fighting, than trying to avoid getting stopped and stinking the place out while offering no resistance to an overwhelming UD loss.
     
    horst, Jul 3, 2011
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  8. goat15

    goat15 Active Member Full Member

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    that's just how haye fights. it's difficult to completely change your style against the best guy you've ever fought. sure, haye said a lot of things before the fight, but it's silly to be annoyed that he didn't fight like frazier or tyson on the night. he was selling the fight, and tried his best once he was in the ring.
     
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  9. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye did not implement the only game plan that would beat Wlad.

    He fought the exact same way as almost all of Wlad's recent opponents, scared and on the back foot and trying to survive.

    With all the hype, he was just another fighter who was not good enough on the night.
     
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  10. oli

    oli Boxing Junkie banned

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    Let's all laugh at David Haye. After all the big talk he did absolutely nothing. That was an embarrassing performance EXACTLY as I said it would be. Wlad made easy work of this fraud. Now **** off David your a disgrace
     
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