Holy,Lewis,Tyson vs last nights Wlad

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  1. Showbox Mike

    Showbox Mike Member Full Member

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    -One thing I saw was that a guy like David Haye was able to slip Wlad's jab consistently. That is a bad sign against a guy like Prime Tyson.

    -Prime Lewis would be a different problem altogether because he can reach Wlad with leverage on his shots and not need to overextend.

    -We saw how Prime Holyfield dealt with 6'5 240+ lb HW champions.

    Wlad would have a very hard time against these three guys for different reasons. But he's still a technically sound big man who has managed to keep himself from being hit with even remote regularity. I think Wlad of his Fritz Sdunek days (pre-Sanders) is a much more interesting matchup with Holyfield. That's a tough fight for both guys. The other two fights are mismatches. Look, Haye was even able to mark up Wlad's face with some stiff Jabs (of the few punches he threw). What would Lennox's jab do? Scary thought.
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Very good point. :good

    Haye isn't exactly all that elusive, Ruiz had no problem landing his jab. Tyson could very well get passed the jab without too much difficulty and without a decent uppercut to discourage Tyson's rushes he could find himself in serious trouble all too often.
     
  3. Goose

    Goose Russian oligarch Full Member

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    stylistically Wlad beats holyfield, but gets knocked out by Tyson and Lewis
     
  4. Mr Butt

    Mr Butt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    in thier primes they would all beat wlad
     
  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Only thing about Lewis and Bowe against Holyfield is that they knew how to mix up their punches .I always see Wlad just throwing most of his punches streight ..Tyson would just chop Wlad down with a body attack then go up stairs ..
     
  6. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    So you talk **** about theoretical fantasy matchups and then suggest your own scenarios? Uhh-huh :blood
     
  7. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    I'm not a betting man and I've never been a fan of Haye, but I was hoping he's knock Wladimir's ****ing head off yesterday. In fact, I'd root for my own ****ing mail man over Wladimir Klitschko. That's my extent of hate I have for the way he fights.

    And I must add, no single person who put money on Haye lost anywhere near as much money on this fight as HBO did by broadcasting another Wladimir Klitschko borefest. I guess they should've have known better... and I should've known better than to sit through another unbelievably unwatchable Wladimir fight. It'll be the last time I ever do that guaranteed.
     
  8. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    then you sir, are a ******.
     
  9. chico g

    chico g Let's watch some Sesame Street...lmao Full Member

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    Lewis and Holyfield would knock Wlad out. Dunno about Tyson....
     
  10. Irländsk

    Irländsk Boxing Addict banned

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    Only Lewis would be favoured over Wlad, and by a slim margin.
    It's mindboggling that so many people can't admit how talented WALD really is.
     
  11. Exposed

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    I think we all damn well know what would happen if tyson's launches a powerful right undercut, left hook, or right hook on wlad's jaw, and you damn well know it too.
     
  12. PowerHoock

    PowerHoock Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tyson strugled aggainst tall fighters, fighters who were nowhere near as talented or smart as Wladimir(aside form Lennox). Tyson would have lost.
     
  13. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad might only beat Holyfield.

    Tyson and Lewis would KO Wlad.
     
  14. brb

    brb Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would give Lewis the best odds on beating Wlad.

    Holyfield - This is the easiest fight for Wlad against these 3.

    Holy doesn't have the speed, one punch power, or height/reach to bother Wlad.

    Holy can't outbox Wlad from the outside (I'm sure we can all agree on that) - 1 scenario down.

    Holy isn't quick enough to move in and out. If Haye can't do this (who is faster than Holy) than Holy can't.

    Holy would be rocked at long range and Wlad would tie him up and probably throw him around. He threw Haye around a couple times like a ragdoll (Holy and Haye are practically the same height, weight and reach).

    Tyson - possibly some scary moments for Wlad.

    However, Tyson is extremely short and don't forget about the reach as well which makes it that much more worse.

    Think about it, if Wlad backs up 1 to 2 steps Tyson is nowhere, let me say that again nowhere near Wlad.. Wlad has good defense and can easily get outta reach of Tyson while implementing some jabs from long range and clinches which would tire Tyson out.

    Keep in mind that Wlad is very, very well conditioned so he can absorb Tyson's shots to the body and Tyson will have a difficult time trying to land on Wlad's chin.

    Haye who is much taller and has a much longer reach then Tyson looked like an amature at certain points lunging forward to hit Wlad and Wlad picked it off most of the time.
     
  15. Diggersan

    Diggersan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    tyson was short could he even have reached Wlad's chin?