Apparently Wladimir is the Undisputed Champ... Question is, Who Killed Vitali?

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  1. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    Old rules dont always apply now, for me 4/4 makes you undisputed, it doenst really matter its basically a given that wlad will become undisputed in 1-3 years.
     
  2. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vitali retired, Wlad became #1 and now Vitali is ducking him..
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Politics don't really effect things to me. He beat his 3rd beltholder in chag so I classed him as undisputed since then.
     
  4. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:

    Seriously though, Undisputed doesn't have much meaning if you are missing one of the three major belts and the guy who has it is undoubtedly the most threatening fighter. Obviously its his brother, but thats their problem, Haye certainly wouldn't have been undisputed champ if he had won thats for sure.
     
  5. irishny

    irishny Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Seriously though,isnt it pretty remarkable that you hve 2 bros,who have between them pretty much beaten every semi decent challanger in the past decade.

    Their combined record is incredibly impressive!
     
  6. DLT

    DLT Member Full Member

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    They are excellent boxers no doubt about that, they are excellent big men in a division of good (with one or two notable exceptions) smaller men.

    p4p they don't stand up - a wlad at 6' 3 isnt a dominant champion. I think Vitali would fare better as he is a warrior. But, alas, this is the nature of the heavy division in boxing.

    Its worrying for the sport, they dont have this problem in mma, to a certian level, size becomes a disadvantage as smaller heavys are better on the ground.

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  7. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    he's unified champion. he needs that last belt to be considered undisputed imo
     
  8. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    Damn, I thought you needed all 4 :huh. It shouldn't be long before wlad gets the wbc anyway
     
  9. DLT

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    Makes more sense.
     
  10. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    In a perfect world Vitali would retire on a high note after beating Adamek. The WBC would then have their next highest contenders fight for the vacant belt and Wlad would challenge the winner for complete unification.

    I appreciate what the bros have accomplished but at this point Vitali is standing in the way of history being made. It's nearly impossible to unify all the belts and Wladimir is very close to doing so.

    I also agree that Wlad has been THE Heavyweight Champion since he beat Chagaev and added the ring magazine belt to the collection.
     
  11. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Wlad isn't undisputed and will never be until Vitali retires and he wins the WBC belt in the ring.

    Personally I have always rated Vitali higher, always thought Wlad was over rated and too amateurish in his early career. Even now I think a past prime Vitali would beat his younger brother if they ever actually fought.
     
  12. BlackWall

    BlackWall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    vitali will retire after adamek, than wlad can be the undesputed champion!
     
  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    So tyson was not undisputed champ when the wbo belt came into play?

    How about lewis? He might have beaten akinwade but the fight wasn't sanctioned by wbo so was he not undisputed?

    Are we to use this definition and make the conclusion that leon spinks was the last undisputed champion?
     
  14. Holmesy

    Holmesy Interloper Full Member

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    What if Vitali said, "My brother is better than me - I don't dispute the fact that he is the undisputed heavyweight champion". Does that mean anything?
     
  15. DLT

    DLT Member Full Member

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    Wlad might be better than him in a sense - so he could say that, but non the less, he wouldn't win in a fight between the two.

    He would loose his size advantage and be in with someone whom could walk him down, 39 year old vitali wins; unfortunately for Wlad fans, however, klit fans should still just be as happy. No?



    Therefore, no.