The Klits Record Fighting ATG`s

there are none available, holyfield doesnt count, beating haye is 100 better than holy at this point.

 

Sour grapes

 

Point is that first you picked Haye by destruction and now desperately look for things to discredit the Klitschkos. It just won´t change the fact that the Klitschkos just keep winning...

 

Are there any to beat? Maybe Larry Holmes comes out from retirement... :huh

 

They won't be German no matter how much you wan't them to be, they just want your money cause your countrymen are the only ones stupid enough to watch that junk en masse.

 

Funny how the trolls, that predicted Haye by firstround raping unite in desperation

 

May I ask another question. How does "Iron" Mike Tyson record against ATG look like? Or you could also ask how Lennox Lewis record against ATG looks like.

Not many ATG in their resume either. Tyson has a win against a very old Larry Holmes
Lewis biggest name is Holyfield (if you don't count the over the hill Tyson).

 

They re desperate more in just one way, not only does Klitschko keep winning but also, the guy they had hoped would beat him, and so they hoped reduce him, cut him down to size, their own countryman, when the opportunity presented itself to put his money where his vast mouth had been, preferred flopping on the floor like a floor gymnast to engaging in a real fight with Wlad.

 

I am very critical of Wlad's performance against Haye and am no fan of his but all these desperate threads to discredit him are sad.

Sure Wlad is not a top 10 ATG and will never be unless something drastic changes. But he's still a very good fighter, we can pick apart any fighters record but the fact is he can only beat the opposition that is available.

Wlad was too young and green in the late 90's and early 00's when great fighters like Lewis and Holyfield were around and lost key fights to prevent him earning a title shot at the time. While some will say he simply wasn't good enough, you have to remember Lewis was older than Wlad when he lost to McCall. He simply hadn't reached his prime when those losses came.

And in this era there are simply no ATG's to face Wlad. Sure Lewis had Holyfield and Tyson, Holyfield had Holmes and Tyson and Holmes had Ali, but not all these wins meant anything in reality as they were past their best. Sometimes a weak era occurs and the great fighters of the previous era are either not available or when they do make a comeback are simply past their best and almost always lose.

Vitali had his shot in his prime and was beaten but Lewis was a very special fighter and while past his best was nowhere near as bad as when Ali fought Holmes or when Louis fought Marciano so it's not surprising that he lost.

 

How can you expect someone to become an ATG when the Klitschkos beat the stuffing out of anyone and everyone that comes up?
When the K brothers came up most guys who were considered at the top were either washed up or what should have been on the verge of retirement.

 

Lenox won his fight with a lucky eye cut punch.....
True Lenox was in shape for Donut Johnson.

It was a very good fight....yet haters just hate.
I did like any one not blinded by hate have Vitili up.
And Lenox ran from a re-match...holding his titles for a good year before retiring, making advertising money instead of re-matching one of the most dangerous men he ever fought.

That sort of lowers the ATG level of Lewis....do ATG's dodge some one and then retire?
He could have gotten into Rahman 2, shape. But instead he dodged the re-match and a real big money fight.
Then with sour grapes he tells any one how to beat a Klitchko....all the time. That is rather bush.

Louis was past it, an old man...of 36........His reflexes were shot when lost to a fast Charles after having much trouble with Old Man Walcott, and then to Marciano. Vs Charles he'd been out of the ring two years, and it might be possible to deal with eroding reflex if one is at constant battle with it, ad******g to it....but coming in thinking something still works, and battling ring rust at the same time is what happened against Charles.
Imagine 90% income tax that Louis paid for the Charles fight, which was sparsely attended.

At age of 36 he said, "When I was young, the opening appeared and I hit him. Now, the opening appears, I say hit him, and my hand don't move."

I think some of that age has appeared for Wlad vs a very slippery Haye, there were times when he could not pull the trigger.


Vitalie is a very old man for boxing, and his brother is rapidly approaching Old Man status of 36.

I can't help it that the tallent pool has been so toe shallow for so long that people actually think that 36 is not old for a Heavy....it's only not old for a heavy now because the tallent pool is too shallow.

Had we a single line of contenders who had to fight their way up, and fight other high ranked contenders to stay in a single top five in order to fight for a Championship fight instead of being able to cherry pick who they fought, you would know....35-36 is an old fighter.


Who was second best of the era not named Klitchko....Byrd?

 

This is not ever entirely true, Vitali and Wlad have been cut repeatedly in fights were they took a solid punch. They seem to always be in danger of suffering a costly nick.
The difference between the two was that Lewis was a long standing champion with years of experience at the Top Level.