Adam Booth's tactics.

Nah, thats pretty weak because Haye was there to hit. He was just moving his head, something Wlad doesn't often see.

 

yes but he stayed in range.

 

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcFCkwKFxtc&feature=related[/ame]


Look at the state of Shannon Briggs in this video..? He deserves all the criticism David Haye has got, look and listen to him making ready made excuses in this video. And then he promised he would be in great shape, and he was in terrible shape. There is no need for him to be weighing over 260 pounds, he's a lazy, brainwashed pumped up loser.

Look at the state of him, thinking he's great.

And it was totally his own fault why he injured his bicep, he is totally muscle bound and lacks flexibility through the full range of motion.

 

I don't buy the 'Haye slipped under the jab'

Haye did avoid the jab a lot, but this was mostly by being just out of range, there were no times where he actually slipped under the jab and was in a position to land a clean punch.

He avoided the jab, yes, but didn't slip inside it.

 

Nonsense...he had clear and open sight of Wlad on numerous occasions and just didn't pull the trigger...He was also consistantly slipping the jab, nothing to do with being out of range.

 

Why would somebody not throw when they have clear and open sight of the opponent, but then throw wild right hands when completely out of range? Doesn't make sense.

Haye was always on the outside of the jab, doesn't mean it was landing, but it was keeping Haye in his place.

Most of the time Wlad wasn't even throwing a jab for Haye to get inside of, he was just holding it in front of Haye like a barrier.

 

And Booth revealed that his tactics for Groves-DeGale was for Groves to be always out of range of the DeGale jab as this is the punch that sets everything up for DeGale and the punch that makes him feel comfortable to throw more.

I can't help feeling that he also revealed his tactics for Haye-Wlad at the same time. Stay out of range of the jab, so Wlad can't touch Haye with it and can't ever get comfortable - unfortunately Wlad is a lot larger, a lot more patient and better at closing space/getting out of the way of any spurts from Haye.

 

Haye humiliated himself, Wlad did **** all.

 

A no biased assesment, well done :thumbsup

 

Don't cry... Wlad didn't look particularly impressive either. It was a painful sight to behold.

 

Horrible fight and they both have to take responsability. The problem is that neither are natural fighters, they are athletes and have an athletes mentality. David deserves more **** because of his huge mouth though, he talks a good game but the fact is that he is a cautious counter puncher, that's his style, so it isn't a huge surprise really.

David wouldn't take risks by actually trying to punch at the correct range and Wlad wouldn't take risks by throwing anything other than jabs from his optimal range.

I think they both do the belts a disservice. The way this fight was built up and then for them to both fight so scared is laughable.

 

It is?

News to me. He's always been a gunslinger. This more cautious style has been somewhat of a surprise at HW. Considering the job he did on Barratt and Ruiz, he's clearly just very cagey with bigger guys.

 

Less so at cruiser, but heavyweight is his domain now and it has always been apparent there.

I don't thin Booth should take any blame.

At what point does David use his own initiative and do his own thing once he realises the plan isn't working? Or is he just a robot? he should have put it all on the line the last three rounds, but he is too arrogant to risk getting knocked out.

 

no haye and Booth take responsibility a) because Booth has been a boring ****er with his gameplans several times now (can I have my PPV receipts back please?) and b) Haye was fighting, in GERMANY, for Klitschko's 3 titles.

Surely the daft *******s must have realised a few punches would have been nice for all concerned?

Wlad just saw the fight out for an easy points victory. Why take the risk if your opponent is going to stand there like a plank, not throwing, bobbing his head away from your jab?