Boxing Pension Plan.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by SJS19, Jul 16, 2011.


  1. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I've been watching people like Roy Jones, Evander Holyfield and countless other fighters continue to fight and take punches long after they should of retired. Others such as Mike Mccallum, Michael Watson and Meldrick Taylor have no alternate source of income since they stopped fighting, their physical condition largely prevents them from getting another Job so that they can support themselves.

    The idea of a pension plan for boxers has been floating around for years, I know that John McCain in the U.S has been quite vocal about it.
    I'll be the first to admit that I'm not that clued up about how a pension plan would be set up and paid for, I was just wondering if anybody had any ideas how it should be done. :think
     
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  2. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    It should be done. They should have some kind of requirement that promoters contribute a percentage of the gate of each major boxing event to fund a pension fund for the fighters.

    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad heads an excellent organization that has been working on these issues, JAB:

    http://www.ringboyz.com/Eddiejab.htm
     
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  3. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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  4. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks alot buddy, appreciate it.
     
  5. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    more importantly than a pension plan - teach these guys to be smart with their cash to begin with
     
  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I'm a big supporter of boxer unionization and the establishment of pension benefits. I think it's criminal the way these guys are taken advantage of to create profits for parasites like Don King or Bob Arum.
     
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  7. greathamza

    greathamza Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Every one wants one but nobody makes one
     
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  9. UndisputedUK

    UndisputedUK Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are two types of body pushing for pension plans in the UK... they are The British Government and the Insurance \ Finance Companies.

    The Government wants you to invest in a pension so that it doesn't have to give you anything when you retire, even though you were promissed one and paid national insurance for years. The people who don't work or don't pay in will probably get more in benefits than someone who doesn't have a pension.

    The insurance companies and banks want you to invest because they get your money and make big profits from it. If you die early they keeps thousands in many cases.

    The suits know pensions are bad for you and good for them so they come up with scare stories in the press about poverty in old age.

    Even if pensions were good value in the first place the Government and Finance industry can rip you off again by:

    Reducing or removing the tax free lump sum.
    Increasing the retirement age.
    Reducing and fixing annutiy rates.
    Having an extra tax or additional tax on over 65's.

    Pensions are another Tax on workers, with a share of the profits going to the Government and Insurance industry.

    As an example, you put around £8000 into a pension and £10000 goes into the pot. They take charges out of this each year regardless of how well they do. This may take you a few years contributions to make £10k. When you retire, if you don't get a lump some you will probably get a pension that rises with inflation of £300 a year, which will be taxed.

    So, after tax you get £240 a year for life, rising by a couple of % each year. Would you give someone £8000 of your hard earned cash for them to pay you back £20 a month for the rest of your life? Remember you could put the cash in and ISA or bank account and get more than the annuity rate in interest.

    Financial knowledge and savings for boxers is good, but pensions are not always the best bet.

    :good
     
  10. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    This is why organization is necessary. If fans really want to support boxers, they should support organizations like JAB that are fighting to get them the benefits they deserve.
     
  11. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxers who make an excess of 3 million dollars over their career, free and clear of any other expense related to the sport(like Trainer, manager, promoter, etc.) have no excuse of being broke the second they retire. If they retire at 35, 3 million is a $75K per year paycheck until they are 75 years old. And that's without doing anything else in their entire life outside of watching the price is right and going to their kid's soccer game.
     
  12. outslugger

    outslugger The Relentless Stalker Full Member

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    Do Holy & RJJ have money problems?
     
  13. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    it'll never get done.. nobody wants to pay for it.. it should be the promoters and organizations that pay but they wont

    :hat