Come on guys, shoot me down!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by BrummyLad, Jul 17, 2011.


  1. SHOTAT

    SHOTAT Scouse House Full Member

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    Fair shout. Mckenzie has 7ko's to his name.
     
  2. sg85

    sg85 Bang on the chan Full Member

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    Cleverly>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bellew.
     
  3. RockyMartinez

    RockyMartinez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah I dont rate Cleverly as elite level, I just belive Bellew id the one way overated
     
  4. Pug1list

    Pug1list Boxing Addict Full Member

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    McKenzie was absolutely awful yesterday and Bellew showed nothing, Cleverly may not be as bigger one puncher as McKenzie but he is much more skilful. Cleverly will have him out of there.
     
  5. Jamacianlad3434

    Jamacianlad3434 Member Full Member

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    I apologise, it just really angers me that some people seem to genuinely think that he is in elite class. I'm certain Brahmer would have knocked him out, and although Bellew looks nothing special and would be the underdog, the way Cleverly fights means you can't rule out Bellew stopping him in my view.
     
  6. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    No worries mate. FWIW I agree, Clev is just fringe world class now and Bellews decent dig (and talk) will make an interesting fight out of it but I think Cleverly will probably break him down and stop him late.

    Even though it'll be for a world title its really a Euro level dust up at best IMHO.
     
  7. eggboxer

    eggboxer Guest

    dont think bellew is any better than euro level at best
    jab jab straight right is all he throws 90% of the time ive seen him
     
  8. Grant1

    Grant1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If Cleverly boxes sensibly he will beat Bellew comfortably.

    But given Clevs tendancy to want to go into the trenches when it's not needed, and Bellew's ability to get under peoples skin it really wouldn't surprise me if Clev walked onto something.

    The fight is in Clevs hands for me.
     
  9. HeavyT

    HeavyT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thats the way I see it, Bellew should have more fights then challenge but I dont see it happening now.
     
  10. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    Clev will stand and trade bombs with Bellew and KO him within 3 rounds when they fight. He is the more accurate puncher and has the better chin
     
  11. BrummyLad

    BrummyLad Sergio Kun Aguero Full Member

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    Remember clev is a few years younger than tony and achieved way more in less fights. Tony imo spent too long in the ams and his style is flawed as a pro, he seems to find it difficult to be a comprehensive pro style fighter.

    If they fight I see clev winning wide on points or by tko, frank knows this and will build it slowly but surely and will cash in the chips when he thinks the times right.
     
  12. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    September?
     
  13. BrummyLad

    BrummyLad Sergio Kun Aguero Full Member

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    Too soon mate unless he needs the cash, if degale loses his next fight I can see it, if not then he will brew it and wait till next summer imo. Gavin is his real problem tho, he expected most from him and so far has failed to deliver in that respect when you compare him to what degale has done (he only lost to groves by a single point!) and is fighting for euro strap next and they both started the same time! I believe he will bollock arnie and gavin and get them both to sort their **** out make lww and do so well. BJS is the one who will come up trumps, world champ i promise you...
     
  14. nickythekid

    nickythekid Active Member Full Member

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    :deal yep
     
  15. BrummyLad

    BrummyLad Sergio Kun Aguero Full Member

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    Rob i thought Haye was shitting them from way back and all the talk was hype all along, not at any point in the last 2 years did i fancy Haye, not once! The more you look back and see his antics, the more he looks a ****!

    The key to Haye is ditching Booth, bold call you may say, but he needs to completely change his way of fighting in terms of pot-shoting and waiting for chances. he needs to combination punch and start bobbing and weaving more instead of relying on lateral movement to shy away from a punch. His style may have had success at a weak cruiserweight division but against the Klits that style will never work. he needs to get close in and pump away and Booth has never ever deployed those tactics with nay of his fighters hence my call to move.

    Frankie should go to the u.s but it wont happen cos frank will be scared that GBP will pilfer him, remember they wanted him after the amateur world championships. If he does stop here, he should go with Tibbs or McCracken.

    Arnie must be a decent coach of course, but he and frank seem too close almost. A trainer must be able to pull his fighter apart and demand more of his fighter even to the point where they fall out. Blowing up in training camp and struggling to win by s/d against a very average opponent is just not cutting the mustard, granted Dave Parris card was pitiful but he won by a very slim margin. The lww scene is the 2nd best in boxing after smw and he really needs to be brought on, just dont think Arnie can do what is needed, sorry if i have offended anyone but those are my thoughts...